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Old 10-06-20, 11:02 AM
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A few bits from my Great War nostalgia section , mainly Austria-Hungary.

I am told that the voided Signals & Telegraph collar badge is a rare item; I believe it is a sew-on insignia
The green and white enamelled patriotic 1914-1915 lapel badge is stamped at the back (in German) 'War Welfare Office'.
Both ORs and Officers cap cockades are for Emperor Charles
I believe the Edelweiss is also a cap insignia and may be for mountain troops, but need further confirmation

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Forgive my asking, but what is a "KuK"?

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Old 10-06-20, 03:43 PM
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Kaiserlich und Koniglich - Imperial and Royal. It refers to the Dual Monarchy of Austria and Hungary

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Old 10-06-20, 08:53 PM
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The Edelweiss badge certainly seems to be the same design as the example seen here:

https://gmic.co.uk/topic/66893-alpen...irmm%C3%BCtze/

Guessing your one is officers??
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Showing 3 different Edelweiss badges, three different periods.

Silver embroidered on green, Alpine Corps, WW1
2-piece metal sew-on cap badge, mid-WW2
Silver & gold aluminium hand-embroider on grey, cap badge,current

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If the crown has two or usually three thin flat prongs on the back it is probably off of a german Colonial troop officers shoulder strap.
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Forgive my asking, but what is a "KuK"?

Dave.
As GTB explains. But be careful.

k. u. k. > kaiserlich und königlich > imperial and royal > for all instutitions of the double monarchy.

k. k. > kaiserlich königlich > imperial royal > for the "german" part of the monarchy where the emperor of Austria was also the king of Bohemia.

k. u. (or: m. k.) > königlich ungarisch (or: Magyar Királyi) > royal Hungarian > for the Hungarian part of the double monarchy.

There were three armies in the state:
k. u. k. gemeinsames Heer > imperial and royal common army.
k. k. Landwehr > the territorial army of the Austrian part.
k. u. Landwehr (or: m. k. Honvédség) > the territorial army of the Hungarian part.
During war, all were united in one organisation.

I called them "territorial" above, but the two last were not second line troops. They were organised and manned like the common army.
All three had their own ministerial departments in Vienna, Vienna and Budapest.

This confusing construction was one of the results of the Austro-Hungarian Compromise of 1867.
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If the crown has two or usually three thin flat prongs on the back it is probably off of a german Colonial troop officers shoulder strap.
Yes, macandpud, the Crown does have 3 thin prongs (also gilt) at the back. I believe it was also worn by German Colonial Officers on the cuff. A very nice badge and still in pristine condition after more than a century

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Yes, macandpud, the Crown does have 3 thin prongs (also gilt) at the back. I believe it was also worn by German Colonial Officers on the cuff. A very nice badge and still in pristine condition after more than a century

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German colonial Police cap badge and worn with a tri-colour cockade(at least in German South West Africa)
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Old 12-06-20, 08:11 AM
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Have seen this crown being worn above cuff lace by Colonial naval officer in old photograph on a German colonial website

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