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Old 31-12-19, 09:04 PM
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Keep in mind Brent, NZRB in New Zealand prior to departure, also wore numerals. Arthur Harrington Coster 25/630 ….
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Sergeant Allan Palmer, Service No. 25301, 14th Reinforcements, J Company.








Keep in mind too , Brent , NZRB did wear numerals as well in NZ, prior to departure . Arthur Harrington Coster 25/630 ……...


Private William Robertson, Service No. 14482, 14th Reinforcements Auckland Infantry Battalion, A Company.




Iain like yourself I do not collect NZ Reinforcement Numerals although I do have a single D/10 which measures at just over 25mm.

I do however collect regulation NZ Regimental Numerals (1 -17) and regulation NZ Corps/Battery Letters (A – J), which were all made by Gaunt and were all the regulation size of 5/8th of an inch (approx. 15mm)
I also collect NZ Reinforcement Letters (A – J) all of which measure just over 16mm.

Unfortunately as I don’t have a Stokes Numeral in my collection I can only comment that the size mentioned by Vigilans [Quote:] ― “they are NOT Australian Slouch hat numerals, they are too small (at 13mm)” ― seems unusually small to me considering the NZ regulation size was 15mm.

The Stokes made numerals are rather distinctive considering they have a unique cross bar attachment which sits underneath the numerals, so it seems rather suspicious to me that neither you nor I have found a period photo of a New Zealand reinforcement wearing a Stokes made numeral.
(I do however have period photos showing all of the 5 NZ camp made reinforcement numerals that are depicted in Corbett’s badge book ― pg 176, 183, 184 and 185)

Interestingly Lowe’s Reinforcement badge book (pg 53) shows a war time picture showing NZ Reinforcement Numerals beginning with 17 all the way up to 34, none of which appear to be made by Stokes.

What we both can agree on is that the Stokes made Numerals being sold by Bigg-mama-nz are most unlikely to have ever been worn at all by NZ Reinforcements, which means that if evidence does turn up showing that NZ Reinforcements did actually wear Stokes made numerals, then Bigg-mama-nz has single handily crushed any value of the Stokes Numerals that “have come into collections via NZEF veteran's estates.”

To put this matter at rest Puk, can you supply any proof or provenance of Stokes Numerals that can be linked to an actual WW1 NZ veteran, which you mention exists “in some well established NZ badge collections?”
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Old 01-01-20, 07:15 AM
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Shoulder strap off early tunic with red piping for Infantry.
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Very nice , 8th Southland company . Great to see .
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I have been working on improving my reinforcement numeral lot(single examples) .I know they go to 51, but will end this lot at 43 , for the reinforcements that sailed . The question is , when did they first start to be more common /standard, when worn on the shoulder tab? . Some of the early ones are rare and usually worn as collar badges .

Here is George Mason 8/4171 , 11th reinforcements , wearing 11's on his collar.

If you have a spare 15,21,24,37, 42,43 then let me know .
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The question is , when did they first start to be more common /standard, when worn on the shoulder tab?
2nd March 1916.
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2nd March 1916.
Very precise , so somewhere around 12th reinforcements perhaps ?
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Very precise , so somewhere around 12th reinforcements perhaps ?
Yes, somewhere around the 12th to 14th reinforcements.
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