Military Hunt Buttons

[CAM]

1. KDG
2 - 4. Bays
5 & 6. 3DG
7. 3H
8. 3DG
9. (?) RHA
10. (?)
11. 6DG
12 & 13. 6D
14. 5DG
15. QOH
16. 10 H
17. 4/7 DG
18. 7DG
19. 10H
20. 11H
21. 12L
22 & 23. 13 H
24 (?)
25. 14H
26. 14/20H
27-29. 18H
30. 13/18H
31. 21L
32 & 33. RHA
34 & 35 RA (Salisbury Plain)
36. Recce Corps
37. Welsh
38. Hants
39. DLI
40. S.Staffs
41. RASC
42. Sch of Inf
43. Aldershot Command Foot Beagles
44. Staff College
45. Sandhurst Beagles
NB 43 & 45 later combined to form the Aldershot and Sandhurst Beagles

Chris

[CAM]

Originally Posted by btns

Thank you all for replying.
Just now I went through the images of the Pitt sample book (ca. 1900 - 1960) which was broken up and sold off in 2009.

I found over 60 flat military buttons. Not a single one was listed as hunt, some are service dress and most are listed as blazer.
To me it seems that buttons ordered as blazer buttons may have been used as military hunt buttons.
I do not know how many military hunts with their own pack have existed. I also do not know if officers hunting as members of private packs used their military blazer buttons.
I'll go through my hunt button books later to find military hunt buttons.

I think you may be right on some of the blazer buttons, however hunts usually wore there own.. I do not know of a definitive list but there were definitely some Regiments (and Corps) with their own hunt. I have attached a photo of other military hunt buttons - not mine and I cannot remember where I got it from but NB row 4 centre.

I also have somewhere an article from Horse & Hound on hunts and the military although I think was more to do with the tactical training value due to 'reading the ground' and the 'lie of the land'. There is another somewhere on the Warwicks Regt Hunt. I shall keep looking.

As you would expect the Yeomanry did not have Regimental Hunts as they would be part of the local hunting community - which was large and there were many hunts in close proximity. There are a couple of photos somewhere of some Northumberland Hussars officers hunting in Mesopotamia.

I really should file my notes and articles better! I may have to wait until I next visit Nottingham to get my Baily's.

Chris

[CAM]

Photo to accompany above.

[btns]

A selection of military hunt buttons
From: Hunt Buttons by Neil McShane
page 335

3rd King's Own Hussars
4th Queen's Own Hussars
7th Queen's Own Hussars
8th Kings's Royal Irish Hussars
10th Prince of Wales Royal
11th Prince Albert's Own Hussars
13th Hussars
13th/18th Royal Hussars
14th King's Hussars
14th/20th King's Hussars
15th King's Hussars
15th King's Royal Hussars
15th/19th King's Royal Hussars
18th Queen Mary's Own Hussars
19th Hussars
21th Hussars
1st King's Dragoon Guards
2nd Dragoon Guards (Queen's Bays)
3rd Prince of Wales' Dragoon Guards
4th Royal Irish Dragoon Guards (twice)
5th Dragoon Guards
5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon Guards
6th Dragoon Guards (Carabiniers) (twice)
7th Princess Royal's Dragoon Guards
5th Royal Irish Lancers
12th Prince of Wales' Royal Lancers
17th Lancers
21st Empress of India's Lancers

McShane's list has a number of regular designs. Unfortunately we can no longer ask him for his selection criteria.

[btns]

Military Hunt
From: Buttons for the Collector
by Gwen Squire
page 74
1. 1st Life Guards
2. 2nd Life Guards
3. The Queen's Bays (2nd Dragoon Guards), black vulcanite
4. 5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon Guards
5. The Royal Scots Greys (2nd Dragoons)
6. 3rd Hussars
7. 4th Queen's Own Hussars
8. Royal Artillery (Salisbury Plain)
9. 9th Queen's Royal Lancers
10. 10th Royal Hussars (Prince of Wales's Own)
11. 12th Royal Lancers (Prince of Wales's)
12. 5th Royal Irish Lancers
13. 15th King's Hussars
14. 20th Hussars
15. 21st (Empress of India's) Lancers
16. 30th Lancers (Gordon's Horse)
17. Royal Horse Artillery
18. Royal Artillery, black vulcanite with silver leaf inlay
19. Royal East Kent Regiment (The Buffs)
20. The Royal Northumberland Fusiliers
21. The Worcestershire Regiment
22. The Royal Munster Fusiliers
23. The Royal Dublin Fusiliers
24. The Royal Dublin Fusiliers
25. Royal Army Service Corps
26. Army Veterinary Corps
27. Australian Army Staff College, black vulcanite
28. Staff College Draghounds, in 1901 amalgated with the Royal Military Academy, Sandhurst's hounds
29. Signal Training College Hunt Club
30. 23rd Cavalry Frontier Force (Indian Army)

No. 17 is not flat, looks a mess waiter's button

[btns]

Chris,
If you post good pictures of your unknowns and uncertains from your tray I'll have a go to ID them.
best regards,

[spreadeagle]

Originally Posted by CAM

1. KDG
2 - 4. Bays
5 & 6. 3DG
7. 3H
8. 3DG
9. (?) RHA
10. (?)
11. 6DG
12 & 13. 6D
14. 5DG
15. QOH
16. 10 H
17. 4/7 DG
18. 7DG
19. 10H
20. 11H
21. 12L
22 & 23. 13 H
24 (?)
25. 14H
26. 14/20H
27-29. 18H
30. 13/18H
31. 21L
32 & 33. RHA
34 & 35 RA (Salisbury Plain)
36. Recce Corps
37. Welsh
38. Hants
39. DLI
40. S.Staffs
41. RASC
42. Sch of Inf
43. Aldershot Command Foot Beagles
44. Staff College
45. Sandhurst Beagles
NB 43 & 45 later combined to form the Aldershot and Sandhurst Beagles

Chris

Chris,
Here's a few more cavalry hunt button not on your list.
5L,19H,20H,and 2 variants of the 18h.
Cheers.
Al

[CAM]

Originally Posted by btns

Chris,
If you post good pictures of your unknowns and uncertains from your tray I'll have a go to ID them.
best regards,

Thanks Btns, I shall over the weekend.

Chris

[CAM]

Originally Posted by spreadeagle

Chris,
Here's a few more cavalry hunt button not on your list.
5L,19H,20H,and 2 variants of the 18h.
Cheers.
Al

Thanks Al

[irishhorse]

Anyone got examples of the Royal Dublin Fusiliers military hunt buttons? Don't recall seeing one.

[btns]

Originally Posted by irishhorse

Anyone got examples of the Royal Dublin Fusiliers military hunt buttons? Don't recall seeing one.

Here it is.
It is identical to Mrs. Squire's 74-24. Her 74-23 has R over 102 over D.

[irishhorse]

Thanks for the info btns.

[CAM]

The ones I put a question mark by are shown here as thumbnails:

I think 1. is 7H, 3. is Carabineers, 4. RA, 6 3DG

Chris

[btns]

Here are my IDs:
1. is Q.L. with another Q mirrored
Note: 2 Qs with the 2nd one mirrored is 7th Queen's Own Hussars
2. EH - Essex Hunt (Squire 65-17)
3. 6th Dragoon Guards, (McShane 335-24)
4. QC and R.A.H. - Royal Artillery Hunt (Salisbury Plain) (Squire 74-8)
5. HH and X - 10th Royal Hussars (Prince of Wales's Own). (Squire 74-10)
6. PoW plumes over H.H. - Hampshire foxhounds (Squire 71-23)

[CAM]

Thanks btns