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Arm badges
Hi can I ask for confirmation on who wore these please as there are a few choices and willing to bet I'd put onto wrong one!
Large Arm badge to left is heavy and possibly Silver fitting seems unusual to right lugged w/m, next two smaller again to left Silver and to right screw posts? Pouch? Lastly found this today hoping Griff can verify it, looks to be Silver or Silver plated? Can be returned! Many thanks Billy |
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The badge with the pin brooch looks possibly cast, Indian with maybe a content of silver, the positing of the pin is unusual but may have worked on a pagri.
Similar badges this size where worn by the South Lancs on FSH’s. Paul |
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Hi Paul thats a twist! But fixings seem to be only that shown, and no other witness marks for anything else! Thanks for the imput , billy
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Hi Billy
Sorry mate, bad news, the would be 17th, 17th/21st Lancers arm Motto (Chadd) is the so called "Long Bone" arm Motto, but its a complete FAKE. The Arm Motto is taller than it is wide where as the cap Motto is wider than it is tall. The fakes are about 47mm wide across the bones and 50mm high and it comes in white metal, brass, silver plated with a back plate with a hole in it and in double hallmarked (maybe) silver that I know of. The proper Arm Mottoes have shorter bones and quite large Motto scroll, they are about 41mm across the bones and 48mm tall and are heavily die struck. There is also a die cast issue but Im not sure about this one, but I think that it is suss. Hope that this helps. Regards Phil. |
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In my humble opinion I'd suggest your badges are as follows: 1) Large POW's Plumes Arm Badge. cast with north/south loops removed, remains of silver solder can just be seen behind top plume and coronet. converted to pin brooch 'Sweetheart'. 'Theatre made' India? May be Silver as has turned black, suggest you have it tested. This patt. worn by 3DG,10H & 12L.Nice piece. 2) As above, but die struck wm. three loops and worn again by the same regiments. 3) Small POW's Plumes Arm Badge. cast? wm. worn by Cpls 3DG & 10H. 4) Small POW's plumes wm. with threaded fixings, unlikely to be an Arm Badge. Fixings would indicate a pouch device but could be Infantry or Cavalry. 5) Arm 'Motto' wm. spurious fake as Phil has stated. Hope this is of some help to you. Regards Rob
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Hi Billy
Phil & Rob have covered the fake ...
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They are spot on regards sizes! Heavy, thinking Silver, not that it matters will take back on Saturday well chuffed with the Silver Prince of Wales, found same place, couldn't spot fixings will take another look now! The small cast badge is Silver, the pouch badge in Chrome I was putting down as Police?
Thanks for all the help, pictures in the K & K and Gaylors arent much good so appreciate all the help given best reqards billy |
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