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Old 05-02-19, 07:42 PM
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I have been looking closely at some of my 7th Dragoon Guards badges and I know that three of these came from reputable dealers. I would be interested in comments from others with more experience?
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Old 05-02-19, 08:41 PM
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The bottom 2 with the void on the scroll are not the ORs cap badge pattern which were solid.

The void were found on officers' badges which were silver but also on arm badges. Unfortunately this design has been faked.
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Old 05-02-19, 08:49 PM
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I always thought the arm badges had the Latin scroll and not the English?
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Old 05-02-19, 08:55 PM
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Indeed which why your lower 2 badges are a bit suspect and a rear picture would help.
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Old 05-02-19, 08:59 PM
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The one on the left at the bottom Alan was purchased from a well known dealer. The one on the right at the bottom does feel like a fake
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And the reverse of the arm badges, the first one is hallmarked 1898 and the other one is unhallmarked silver
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What is the makers mark on the shank of the one top left?
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Old 05-02-19, 09:11 PM
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J.W. Tiptaft & Son, Birmingham
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Old 06-02-19, 06:52 AM
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It would be interesting to compare an Officers first pattern badge, can anyone post one to look at.

Another interesting bit is the underlines on the “th” of the 7th, some have just one line and some have two.
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Old 06-02-19, 09:10 AM
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I am afraid I don't like any of the 2 lugged badges and I personally would not buy any of them.

The 3 lugged cap badge and the 3 lugged arm badge is a lovely badge.
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And the reverse of the arm badges, the first one is hallmarked 1898 and the other one is unhallmarked silver
Any idea of the maker of the hallmarked one ?
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Hello

Having looked carefully at your images, I'd suggest you have only three that tick all the boxes as genuine contemporary ones. The upper two Cap Badges with slider(Tiptaft) and three loops, and the HM Silver Arm Badge which I think is made by Bent & Parker. The others I'm afraid appear to be Copies/spurious IMO. I think this basically concurs with Alan's sentiments.

In general, I have noticed over the past few years that Dealers that were once noted as being reliable, are becoming less discerning regarding the quality/genuineness of the badges that they are selling, and I'd suggest collectors need to be more careful in their purchasing than ever.

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Very true indeed, also perhaps a little sad, but, certainly a sign of the times these days.


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In general, I have noticed over the past few years that Dealers that were once noted as being reliable, are becoming less discerning regarding the quality/genuineness of the badges that they are selling, and I'd suggest collectors need to be more careful in their purchasing than ever.

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Old 06-02-19, 02:58 PM
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Yes I totally agree too. There are still a few very good ones but I can think of a couple whose standards have slipped over the last year or two.
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