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Old 22-09-20, 01:31 AM
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Does anyone have any info on this grouping? I've seen a badge similar to this but the figures of the soldier and sailor were picked out in painting enamels, in the way that old coins were done, usually with St George and the dragon.

This is clearly a struck piece and the maker (Millard & Son, Bristol) may serve to date it and give it a region that it circulated in.

It features the commonly used motto of JUSTICE, seen on many of these pre-British Legion badges.

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Old 22-09-20, 01:36 AM
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While you're about it, try this one too. It's a whisker under 40mm across.
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Old 22-09-20, 06:03 AM
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The Federation was formed in 1917, merged into the British Legion in 1921?
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Old 23-09-20, 07:26 AM
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Hi Leigh

Many thanks for that. Possible that this is linked to the Federation then?
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Old 23-09-20, 07:52 AM
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I don't have much knowledge of these sort of organisations or own much in the way of brooches but I know that the Federation was politically to the left and merged with other organisations including those politically to the right to form the British Legion, the brooch presumably relates to the brief period that the Fed. was in existence - the "Workers" addition is a bit of a mystery - were there offshoots formed to perpetuate the old merged organisations in competition after the Legion was formed?

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Old 23-09-20, 08:10 AM
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Interesting little bit of info here on the Federation.

https://tribunemag.co.uk/2019/11/comrades-at-war

Was there a distinction between the Federation and a union?
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Interesting little bit of info here on the Federation.

https://tribunemag.co.uk/2019/11/comrades-at-war

Was there a distinction between the Federation and a union?
I think a lot of the groups/associations formed during and immediately after WW1 were basically 'off shoots' of the political parties/unions and the main distinction was simply the 'branding' of their latest "campaign".

Union/Party membership must have dropped significantly during the war , due to both deaths and employment status (did serving soldiers keep up their union memberships ?). After the war the large numbers of unemployed veterans would have been seen as a perfect 'target' to increase their membership/support.

The fact that these groups had to merge with more "middle of the road" associations show that they didn't have enough support to survive alone. This may have been down to various factors , including some of their policies or policital leanings.


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Slightly off topic but two other 'veterans' groups from the same era are still going today.

The "Not Forgotten Association - Founded in 1920

The "Lest We Forget Association" - Founded in 1922


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Old 24-09-20, 01:20 AM
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Hi Mike, Leigh and anyone else with an interest in this area,

I really appreciate any thoughts on these badges and the associations that they represent.

I agree that many of them "came and went" and from what I've seen some appear to have lasted anywhere from 2-3 years.

The union mention on the badge might be an attempt to re-enforce that Labour link with the addition of "workers" just to underline the inclusiveness of the federation.

From the little that I've gathered, there were very clear political links to these groups which is interesting as some associations deliberately stated that they were "non-political".

Nevertheless, I've seen election posters for national and local body politics where the person standing has chosen to wear a badge that clearly identifies him as and "ex-soldier".

Somewhere in the "archives" is a copy of a photo of a man standing for the Harbour Board with his SWB worn as a tie pin!

No mention of his war service, but this would have been a potent symbol of service at the time.

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From the little that I've gathered, there were very clear political links to these groups which is interesting as some associations deliberately stated that they were "non-political".
The groups may have claimed to be non-political but the unions/workers appear to have been happy to show their allegiances.
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Hi Mike

Thanks for that. A nice badge. I have a badge for Lever Brothers (Australia) and also one for an Australian brewery that had an "ex-servicemens' club" so your point is a good one.

Many thanks!
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