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Old 15-09-14, 08:32 AM
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Default Engine room artificer rank clarification

Hi all,
Firstly I know almost nothing about RN ranks. I have a relative who served from 1909 to 1920 in the RN as an Engine Room Artificer ending up 2nd Class. Am I right in thinking this is, or is equivalent to being a CPO? I am interested in collecting the badges that he would have owned and the discussions I have read talk about PO/CPO not artificer badges. Also as he started his service as an artificer does that mean he would have always worn a peaked cap and therefore never have worn a ship talley? (Please excuse me if I have phrased that wrong - I was in the RAF although I did spend time with an MCU). Am I correct in thinking that there is no trade badge?

So which badges would he have worn?


Thanks for your consideration.

Bryan
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Old 15-09-14, 12:00 PM
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No rate or rank badges were worn by ERA's, they wore the class 3 uniform with peaked cap , thus no ship name ribbon.
Chief ERA2 & 1st class wore the three cuff buttons to denote their rank.
I have att'd a photo of ERA's uniform worn in thr pre 1WW time frame.

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Old 15-09-14, 12:50 PM
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Thank you very much for that clear and precise answer. One last point, he had been awarded Good Conduct badges, are these similar to the army - chevrons on the sleeve?

Thanks again

Bryan
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Old 15-09-14, 12:57 PM
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Bryan ERA's did not wear GCB's (Good Conduct badges) & these were different from the Army rank chevrons.
They were paid for them tho & they appear on their Service records, but they did not wear them.

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Old 15-09-14, 02:33 PM
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Hi Bryan

You beat me to it. Trust you are keeping well?

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Navy ranks have always been a mystery to me but I love how quickly you provided the information RCN.
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Hi Bryan

You beat me to it. Trust you are keeping well?

David


I am managing David thanks, dealing with some major back issues but basically I am still mobile & collecting!

Hope also you are well!


Perhaps you might clarify as I am not 100% certain - in my post above - my understanding that ERA's wore the regular PO cap badge & Ch ERA's wore the CPO cap badge - is this correct for the time period Bryan has specified?

Bryan

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Old 30-05-19, 10:39 AM
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Default engine room clarification ??

I have read the piece about the number of buttons that a ERA has got to show at what rank he has,. My father was E.R.A.4 and on one of his photos he's got only 2 cuff buttons . So what did that signify he was?? Thank you.Dave Gibson.
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