Scots Guards Solid Silver Pagri?

[grenadierguardsman]

Yes good point Toby. Their star was slightly different though ?
Andy

[Toby Purcell]

Originally Posted by Toby Purcell

Thinking about this again, I feel that we do have to also consider the Royal Scots who during their very long history (far longer than that of the Scots Guards), wore a wide range of insignia based upon the Star of the Order of the Thistle. White metal was for a long period used to differentiate the insignia of auxiliary units from those of regulars.

Originally Posted by grenadierguardsman

Yes good point Toby. Their star was slightly different though ?
Andy

Yes it did become different but there was a period when badges were identical and the Royal Scots used the symbol for a wide range of purposes over a long time.

[grenadierguardsman]

Originally Posted by Toby Purcell

Yes it did become different but there was a period when badges were identical and the Royal Scots used the symbol for a wide range of purposes over a long time.

I didn't realise that, thanks Toby.
Andy

[Toby Purcell]

Originally Posted by grenadierguardsman

I didn't realise that, thanks Toby.
Andy

Here are just a few examples, there are a great many Andy.

[grenadierguardsman]

Originally Posted by Toby Purcell

Here are just a few examples, there are a great many Andy.

Yes see your point know. Royal Scots and Scots Guards, bit of a mine field.
Andy

[ray smith]

Originally Posted by Toby Purcell

Thinking about this again, I feel that we do have to also consider the Royal Scots who during their very long history (far longer than that of the Scots Guards), wore a wide range of insignia based upon the Star of the Order of the Thistle. White metal was for a long period used to differentiate the insignia of auxiliary units from those of regulars.

Hi Toby, I am interested on the point you made about the age difference of the
Royal Scots and the Scots Guards.
Would you know when the Royal Scots were formed ?
Yours Aye
Ray Smith

[fougasse1940]

http://www.theroyalscots.co.uk/

Rgds, Thomas

[ray smith]

Originally Posted by fougasse1940

http://www.theroyalscots.co.uk/

Rgds, Thomas

Thanks for that Thomas. The Scots Guards celebrated their 350 anniversary
at Holyrood in Edinburgh in 1992 which makes them 9 years younger than the Royal Scots. A very short time in the history of the British Army.
I was lucky enough to have been on parade.
Regards
Ray Smith

[Toby Purcell]

The Scots Guards are a very fine Regiment and I hold no personal favour towards the Royal Scots, but what is conveniently forgotten when comparisons of this kind are made is that the Scots Guards forebears were utterly defeated and scattered at the battle of Worcester in 1651 and they ceased to exist as a discrete body, with merely a few individual survivors sharing exile with the King until his restoration in 1660. Their service was thus broken in terms of continuity. By comparison the linear forebears of the Royal Scots were in continuous service without break. Within the protocols of the British Army when establishing such matters as seniority and longevity, broken service has always been a significant caveat and limitation. It was the two factors of later formation and broken service that I had in mind when making my comment about the Royal Scots having a longer history.

[ray smith]

Hi Toby
You are missing my point,You stated that the Royal Scots had a far longer history than the Scots Guards.
Royal Scots formed 1633. Scots Guards formed 1642.
You have nothing to teach me on the history of the Scots Guards.
I had this drummed into me at the Guards Depot Caterham back in 1955.
Have a nice day.
Yours Aye
Ray Smith

Nemo Me Impune Larcessit