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Old 03-07-17, 09:12 AM
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Some examples of the numerous - and so far unrecorded in comprehensive published form - cloth badges worn in WWI.

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File Type: jpg 4 Middx 37 Div JM sold.jpg (32.3 KB, 113 views)
File Type: jpg 34 Div MGC dated May 1919 Germany.jpg (26.9 KB, 106 views)
File Type: jpg Army Cyclist JM detail.jpg (61.7 KB, 122 views)
File Type: jpg ASC 42 Div Train No4 Coy JM.jpg (31.2 KB, 114 views)
File Type: jpg KRR unknown JM.jpg (48.5 KB, 143 views)
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Old 03-07-17, 10:40 AM
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1) 37th Division
2) 34th Btn M.G.C 34th Division
3) 17th Division
4) 4th Lancashire Fusiliers?
5) unknown to me
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Old 03-07-17, 10:40 AM
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First one - is that the yellow hose shoe of 37th Div?
Second one - 34th Div?
fourth one - a 42nd Div unit?
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Old 03-07-17, 10:41 AM
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Beaten to it - I spent too much time trying to identify the ones I didn't have a hope of identifying.......
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Old 03-07-17, 10:52 AM
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no. 4 is the 4th Company of the 42nd (East Lancashire) Div. A.S.C.

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Old 03-07-17, 10:55 AM
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Thanks Button.
I hadn't identified the cap badge.
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Old 03-07-17, 10:59 AM
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Its particularly difficult to ID these due to the photographic effect of those days that makes colours look opposite to what they are.

For instance the 4 is yellow and the thin inner diamond is white, all on a dark background.

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Old 03-07-17, 11:07 AM
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Glad to have provoked some interest. The last photo has so far defied all attempts to decode it.

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Old 03-07-17, 11:19 AM
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Jon,

Is it plausable that for OpSec he or the photographer has taped over the two cloth badges for the photo?

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Old 03-07-17, 12:00 PM
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The "covering" fabric is sewn on, it doesn't look to be a temporary aarrangement.
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I only see stitching on the backing cloth. ie - the badges, none on the coverings and in fact they are lifting at a couple of the corners.

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Glad to have provoked some interest. The last photo has so far defied all attempts to decode it.

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Not to mention the myriad and in some cases fascinating, unit signs painted on vehicles etc. I'll post a few examples later. Mike
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Glad to have provoked some interest. The last photo has so far defied all attempts to decode it.

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Closest I can work out is 8th Div - 23rd Bde wore arcs, 24th circles, 25th squares in regimental colours.
Obviously, the flaw with that suggestion would be that this man would be in the 23rd & 25th Bde at the same time.....
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Jon,
Have you discounted the design and description in John Waring's JW2/D 174? Mike
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Old 03-07-17, 12:28 PM
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I only see stitching on the backing cloth. ie - the badges, none on the coverings and in fact they are lifting at a couple of the corners.

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There are definitely lines of fine stitching around the edges of the overlays, a couple of millimetres in from the edges.
I see what you mean about the overlays being a little proud of the backings, if it were a recent photo I'd suspect Velcro, it's as if they could be attached by studs / hooks & eyes, which doesn't seem likely.
Could be that the borders are just khaki tunic fabric backings that the single colour insignia are attached to? The backing fabric looks a little frayed, roughly sewn around the edges.
Badges cut from an old tunic complete with the with tunic cloth backing left as an edging & roughly applied by tacking that edging to the new tunic?

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