17th Lancers

[2747andy]

Originally Posted by engineerand brass

Andy, Here goes.

Brian,
If anyone has the greatest interest in Mottos here on the Forum it would be Griff without a shadow of doubt! He is trying to indicate that one way of spotting one of the commonest reproductions is that they have and obvious die fault right across the forehead which looks like a hairline crack and for want of a better expression the right eye as viewed appears to be winking (another die fault)!

To be honest from your image I cannot clearly see either, I would not rely on the shape of teeth either and if I were you I'd look closely for these features or lack of them before discarding this particular example!

Andy

[GriffMJ]

Brian

You can bin it.... it belongs to this family of duffers (attached) ... all look good.... but all are duff.

Here is one (Duffer) I purchased earlier this year..... looks ok .... but its a duffer!

[Frank Kelley]

LOL, well they always were "The Death or Glory Boys" so where did you end up?

Originally Posted by Hussar100

I'm very much the same to tell the truth but I'm ex cavalry so I've known the motto business since going through basic training at Catterick.

Like most recruits who were with me at that time: if we'd seen all the badges before committing ourselves to our regiments of choice we'd all have picked the "Bonehead". The thought of looking so romantic and picking up girls because of it was almost too much to take in and we were jealous as hell of anyone going into the 17/21L.

[Hussar100]

Originally Posted by Frank Kelley

LOL, well they always were "The Death or Glory Boys" so where did you end up?

QRIH - where men were men and sheep were nervous.

[Frank Kelley]

Ah I see, all becomes clear now, perhaps I should have just taken note of your avatar!

[Hussar100]

I'm afraid that wouldn't have helped you Frank. That's a UDR badge.

I did my cake there too.

[Frank Kelley]

That combined with your user name would have certainly given me a clue though!

Originally Posted by Hussar100

I'm afraid that wouldn't have helped you Frank. That's a UDR badge.

I did my cake there too.

[Hussar100]

Originally Posted by Frank Kelley

That combined with your user name would have certainly given me a clue though!

It certainly would Frank. The only difference being that the UDR had no tanks - much to my regret.

[2747andy]

[QUOTE=The only difference being that the UDR had no tanks[/QUOTE]

Thank God ! lol

Andy

[GriffMJ]

Originally Posted by 2747andy

Thank God ! lol

Andy

^^^^^ !!!

[Hussar100]

Originally Posted by 2747andy

Thank God ! lol

Andy

Oh I don't know - better than walking any day of the week. Plus they're very useful if someone is stood on a hill a mile away giving you the bird.

[JerryBB]

Originally Posted by GriffMJ

some points (your badge)....

1. Eye socket modifications & flat spots
2. Rounded "Jelly Mold" appearance
3. Rounded bottom edge to the teeth
4. Grinding marks on the back edge
5. Rounded hip ends
6. Die flaw lines on rear ribbon ends

This type is also found in Wm. with loops E/W and Ym. with loops E/W and slider. (with various modifications to the eyes etc) ..... its a common repro. This repro also has a wider skull than the real thing.

Hi Griff,

I assume this is the same type on E-W loops?

[GriffMJ]

Jerry

Its not good....

[JerryBB]

Originally Posted by GriffMJ

Jerry

Its not good....

Thanks Griff and as I thought from looking at the detailed analysis you have shown.