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Old 27-11-18, 05:46 AM
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Mine are as follows:-

Large with Bar = 83mm x 45mm

Large = 69mm x 45mm

Small with bar = 44mm x 25mm

Small = 37mm x 25mm
Hi Simon

Thanks for posting the measurement, I have made a note for future reference.

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Old 27-11-18, 06:37 AM
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Very interesting thread.
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Old 27-11-18, 08:23 AM
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Okay, many thanks, the smaller examples do seem to turn up more often than the larger ones, but, I would think that the large ones were worn beyond 1907, by some soldiers, for example, whilst the Hussar in post forty one may certainly be pre 1914, I suspect he is also post 1907, but, by how much, I do not know.

He does appear to have the much vaunted backing behind his large badge too.



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This information comes from the ACD Records of Changes.

'Badges Arm Scouts Gilding Metal with Plates and Pins - Cavalry incl. Household Cavalry and Infantry - ACD/Cav:/993'

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Old 27-11-18, 07:33 PM
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Hello Simon,
I must see if I can find those that I have, but, I would not expect to see anything whatsoever regarding size variation in the dies that were used to produce these badges.
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Mine are as follows:-

Large with Bar = 83mm x 45mm

Large = 69mm x 45mm

Small with bar = 44mm x 25mm

Small = 37mm x 25mm
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Old 29-11-18, 08:14 AM
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Unsurprisingly, the sizes mentioned by Simon are the same as those that I have looked at, but, I wonder if there was any considerable variation in the size of cloth examples?

Has anyone got any cloth examples they can actually show?
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Old 29-11-18, 09:37 AM
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Unsurprisingly, the sizes mentioned by Simon are the same as those that I have looked at, but, I wonder if there was any considerable variation in the size of cloth examples?

Has anyone got any cloth examples they can actually show?
A cloth fleur de lys 65mm X 55mm based on the Army Scout badge fleur de lys design but introduced by 47 London Division during WW2 for Snipers.

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Old 29-11-18, 10:51 AM
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Has anybody mentioned the embroidered Scout badge of FdL with bar embroidered in yellow on red cloth used by 8th Bn Suffolk's during WWI?
I'd forgotten about it (ref. Formation Sign 158 of 1990 and The Badges of Kitchener's Army by David Bilton)
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A cloth fleur de lys 65mm X 55mm

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Tim,

Thats Not a Scout badge.
Its a Company Sniper's badge of the 47th London Division c. 1942.

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Simon,
Thanks, I was aware, hence I described it as a fleur de lys.

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Tim,

However this thread is entitled "The Scout Badge" and it maybe as a result of your post be thought of by others as an example of a scout badge, which as you are aware, it is not, hence my clarification.

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Old 29-11-18, 01:45 PM
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Detail on my cloth fleur de lys badge amended for clarification

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To be fair there was a big overlap/ morphing of the functions of scout, sniper, observer, intelligence in the Great War. There is anecdotal evidence of snipers wearing the scout badge ..... there was not a sniper badge as such at that time.
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Old 30-11-18, 08:21 AM
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I would certainly be very interested to know of any variation in the size of the cloth versions of the Army Scout badge, that is relevant to this thread.

Again, has anyone got any examples that they can actually post in this thread?
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Old 30-11-18, 06:12 PM
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I have found my scruffy little cloth version s advertised above. Hope to scan and post over the weekend. Dont hold your breath ..... "interesting" is polite!
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