British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

Recent Books by Forum Members

   

Go Back   British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum > British Military Insignia > Anodised Aluminium Badges

 Other Pages: Galleries, Links etc.
Glossary  Books by Forum Members     Canadian Pre 1914    CEF    CEF Badge Inscriptions   Canadian post 1920     Canadian post 1953     British Cavalry Badges     Makers' Marks    Pipers' Badges  Canadian Cloth Titles  Books  SEARCH
 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 20-07-14, 10:48 PM
Jack8 Jack8 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 658
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike H View Post
From evidence it appears that the only marked versions were made by Dowler. No other marked examples have been identified.
I have one marked H.W. Timings Ltd, B'Ham

Cheers,

Jack
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 21-07-14, 07:22 AM
Mike H's Avatar
Mike H Mike H is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,695
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack8 View Post
I have one marked H.W. Timings Ltd, B'Ham

Cheers,

Jack
Can you post an image please.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 21-07-14, 05:04 PM
Jack8 Jack8 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 658
Default

Here you go.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_3830.jpg (63.5 KB, 43 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_3831.jpg (74.9 KB, 52 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_3834.jpg (115.5 KB, 58 views)
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 21-07-14, 06:04 PM
Mike H's Avatar
Mike H Mike H is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,695
Default

Thanks for that,thats the first one ive seen that isn't blank or a Dowler one
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 21-07-14, 08:05 PM
Jack8 Jack8 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 658
Default

[QUOTE=Mike H;270750]Thanks for that,thats the first one ive seen that isn't blank or a Dowler one.

Has anyone else here seen one, I picked mine up quite a few years ago with a Welsh Regiment one also by Timings?
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 21-07-14, 08:25 PM
Mike H's Avatar
Mike H Mike H is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,695
Default

Welsh regt with Timings slider is correct.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 21-07-14, 08:50 PM
Jack8 Jack8 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 658
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike H View Post
Welsh regt with Timings slider is correct.
Should I be doubting my SWB badge, are there fake SWB Timings marked ones around?
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 21-07-14, 09:22 PM
Mike H's Avatar
Mike H Mike H is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,695
Default

I dont know Jack. Its not one ive come across before.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 21-07-14, 09:36 PM
Jack8 Jack8 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 658
Default

I never really thought about it before now, I welcome some more opinion on this badge. I have just looked through the Timings thread on here and it was not mentioned.

Cheers,
Jack
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 21-07-14, 09:53 PM
Mike H's Avatar
Mike H Mike H is online now
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,695
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack8 View Post
I never really thought about it before now, I welcome some more opinion on this badge. I have just looked through the Timings thread on here and it was not mentioned.

Cheers,
Jack
Doesnt mean its not a genuine item. There is no definative list to which badges exist let alone who they were made by. Most of what is known is through collectors exchanging info and books etc.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 21-07-14, 11:50 PM
Jack8 Jack8 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 658
Default

Thanks for your replies Mike. Does anyone else have any comments regarding this badge/maker combination?

Cheers,
Jack
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 22-07-14, 07:52 AM
hagwalther's Avatar
hagwalther hagwalther is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,939
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack8 View Post
Should I be doubting my SWB badge, are there fake SWB Timings marked ones around?
Hi Jack,

There is a fake Timings mark about but the one shown on your badge is good - more info on page 48 of Anodised Alunminium: The 'No Bull' Cap Badge of the British Army.

The other thing to consider is the slider - is this slider attributed to those used by Timings? Always difficult to tell from images but your badge appears to have one that looks like the item shown on page 67 of same book being the 5.1 Tombstone piece.

Regards

Chris
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 22-07-14, 10:26 AM
Jack8 Jack8 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 658
Default

Hi Chris,

Thanks for your input. It's good to know that you think that the mark is a genuine Timings mark.

As for the slider I do not have a copy of your book to compare it to the 5.1 Tombstone one on page 67 that you mention.

Is the 5.1 Tombstone slider regarded as a typical Timings one or not?

Regards,
Jack
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 22-07-14, 07:17 PM
hagwalther's Avatar
hagwalther hagwalther is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,939
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack8 View Post
Hi Chris,

Thanks for your input. It's good to know that you think that the mark is a genuine Timings mark.

As for the slider I do not have a copy of your book to compare it to the 5.1 Tombstone one on page 67 that you mention.

Is the 5.1 Tombstone slider regarded as a typical Timings one or not?

Regards,
Jack
Hi Jack,

I looked at all 14 makers of A/A cap badges and their sliders and identified three that were used with Timings badges. I allocated the number 5 to the Timings company and then an iterativer number for the sliders used being:

5.1: Tombstone
5.2: Asymmetrical
5.3: Shark Head

see page 67.

Some companies had more designs of sliders such as Gaunt (maker no. 6) who used 10 different slider designs. All very nerdy but very useful if one wanted to understand the relationships between certain companies and also to identify those responsible for manufacturing dodgy examples.

If you really want to know about A/A cap badges then Anodised Aluminium: The 'No Bull' Cap Badge of the British Army should answer your questions.

Regards

Chris
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 22-07-14, 09:38 PM
Jack8 Jack8 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 658
Default

Hi Chris,

Thank you for your reply. So the mark is good, although difficult to tell from images the slider appears to be one used with Timings badges.

There appears to be a fair chance that this badge is 100% correct, if so I would think it could be a scarce example.

My interest in badges is mainly special forces these days, but I do have an eclectic mix collected over many years which includes approximately fifty A/A badges.

Cheers,
Jack
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

mhs link

All times are GMT. The time now is 04:56 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.