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Old 04-04-10, 12:13 PM
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hi all
3 new anodised for the collection came my way this week.
KOYLI stamped on slider FIRMIN LONDON
HOME COUNTIES, not uncommon but made by G.S.TYE & CO LTD. never had a badge made by these guys before
and the EAST SURREY made by JR GAUNT LONDON
the home counties came from NZ (sorry for steping on your toes chris) and the other 2 badges were bought locally and set me back about $2.50aust each.
got to be happy with that
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Old 05-04-10, 02:12 AM
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hi all
3 new anodised for the collection came my way this week.
KOYLI stamped on slider FIRMIN LONDON
HOME COUNTIES, not uncommon but made by G.S.TYE & CO LTD. never had a badge made by these guys before
and the EAST SURREY made by JR GAUNT LONDON
the home counties came from NZ (sorry for steping on your toes chris) and the other 2 badges were bought locally and set me back about $2.50aust each.
got to be happy with that
bc
Hi BC,

The East Surrey is probably a cast fake - can you post the rear of the badge.

No many A/A here in EnZed.

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Old 05-04-10, 06:06 AM
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The East Surrey is probably a cast fake - can you post the rear of the badge.
hi chris
what makes you say this? it looks and feels right
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Old 05-04-10, 06:42 AM
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what makes you say this? it looks and feels right
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Hi BC,

Must admit it does look good.

Do you have any digital or vernier calipers to do some measuring for me?

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Old 06-04-10, 07:16 AM
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hi chris
i dont but i will try and get some and do a measure up. what are you looking for in measurements?
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Old 06-04-10, 07:35 AM
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i dont but i will try and get some and do a measure up. what are you looking for in measurements?
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Hi BC,

Width and thickness of slider and also how tall and wide the badge is.

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Old 06-04-10, 10:48 AM
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Hi Guys,

After trawling through documents from 1951 with the help of 54Bty I have found info regarding official authorisation to issue for the East Surrey Regt for both large and small Tudor Crown variants.

I have just noticed that this is a St. Edward Crown item....

More work to do as this badge does look correct with all the attributes I associate with this maker.

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Old 06-04-10, 01:12 PM
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Chris,
Alan and Keith have been most informative about the ES A/A cap badge. Definitely authorised but whether issued or ever worn is highly questioned and at the museum the curator informed me that recruits post 1952 were marched to the PRI to purchse a nice KC item. Never worn by the TA or cadets.
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In 1959 the East Surreys were amalgamated with Queen's Royal Regiment (West Surrey) to form the The Queen's Royal Surrey Regiment.

So with 7 years to play with, I do not see any reason why the design and issue of a AA St Edwards Crown example should not have been processed as a matter of course to replace the Imperial Crown version.

The marching to the PRI to purchase a nice KC item (Brass?) is not a supply chain issue! and generally recruits were still issued a currant badge even if they rarely wore it.
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Alan and Keith have been most informative about the ES A/A cap badge. Definitely authorised but whether issued or ever worn is highly questioned and at the museum the curator informed me that recruits post 1952 were marched to the PRI to purchse a nice KC item. Never worn by the TA or cadets.
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Thanks Matti,

Are we talking authorisation for the Kings Crown version or the Queens crown version here?

I have evidence of the Kings version only so far.

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In 1959 the East Surreys were amalgamated with Queen's Royal Regiment (West Surrey) to form the The Queen's Royal Surrey Regiment.

So with 7 years to play with, I do not see any reason why the design and issue of a AA St Edwards Crown example should not have been processed as a matter of course to replace the Imperial Crown version.
Hi Mike,

Could have happened. There are a few badges around this era I'm interested in and I have a feeling if I could find the following I might have a few answers:

CCN 1960
Anything between CCN 1973 and COSA 1978
COSA 1978

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I see a maximum of two years when the ES A/A cap badge 'may' have been worn as all QRSR units had their own badge by 1961 and wore it until 67-8 when they became Queensmen. No CCF or ACF units are known to have worn the badge between 1959-1968 and there is a metal one around with the QC
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Hi Mike,

Could have happened. There are a few badges around this era I'm interested in and I have a feeling if I could find the following I might have a few answers:

CCN 1960
Anything between CCN 1973 and COSA 1978
COSA 1978

Regards

Chris
Looking for the same publications myself including something in the 1950's range as I have only 1949 (illustrated), 1963 (incomplete), 1973, 1987 & 1997 and would like to fill in some of the gaps.
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I see a maximum of two years when the ES A/A cap badge 'may' have been worn as all QRSR units had their own badge by 1961 and wore it until 67-8 when they became Queensmen. No CCF or ACF units are known to have worn the badge between 1959-1968 and there is a metal one around with the QC
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Do you mean as well as between 1952 & 1959 when still East Surrey Regt then?
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