R 22e R shoulder titles

[Bill A]

Reviewing some documents from DND Dress Instructions, it appears that the Royal 22e Régiment wore the 3 panel shoulder title until at least 1953, and more likely 1956. At that time they acquired the fully embroidered pattern.
So a Korean War tunic would have the 3 panel pattern.
The fully embroidered pattern also added CANADA in the lower panel. The earlier titles had used the khaki worsted Canada below the three panel title, as was required by dress regs / CARO's.

[edstorey]

What about the printed version - time frame on use?

[Bill A]

Hi Ed, Printed titles date starting in 1943 until 1945. Not all regiments received their titles after the decision had been made to acquire titles. The first to get printed titles were some corps and 1 CID units. So, the R 22e R were one of the units to get the titles earlier.

[Recce]

Originally Posted by Bill A

Hi Ed, Printed titles date starting in 1943 until 1945. Not all regiments received their titles after the decision had been made to acquire titles. The first to get printed titles were some corps and 1 CID units. So, the R 22e R were one of the units to get the titles earlier.

Second World War, the blue is different from your second picture, the Picture blow look at his Title.




Captain Paul Triquet VC


THE BATTLE FOR ORTONA – GAME 1
CASA BERARDI – 15 DECEMBER 1943

By Richard Chambers

http://www.flamesofwar.com/Default.a...2&kb_cat_id=31


A Victoria Cross for valour in Italy Original Radio Account.

Broadcast Date: May 8, 1945

The gully in front of the Italian hamlet of Casa Berardi is becoming a Canadian graveyard. German mortars
and machine guns have cut down Capt. Paul Triquet's company of Royal 22nd soldiers: half have fallen,
and Germans are encircling the remainder. "Never mind them, they can't shoot!" shouts Triquet, and leads
the men through the gully and on into Casa Berardi. Triquet's heroic charge is recounted on the CBC Radio
program For Valour.


http://archives.cbc.ca/war_conflict/...ar/topics/579/

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[Bill A]

Hi Recce, The second picture is the post 1956 pattern.

[edstorey]

These are the printed titles that I have.

Originally Posted by Bill A

Reviewing some documents from DND Dress Instructions, it appears that the Royal 22e Régiment wore the 3 panel shoulder title until at least 1953, and more likely 1956. At that time they acquired the fully embroidered pattern.
So a Korean War tunic would have the 3 panel pattern.
The fully embroidered pattern also added CANADA in the lower panel. The earlier titles had used the khaki worsted Canada below the three panel title, as was required by dress regs / CARO's.

why is this smaller then fully embroidered pattern
peter


R 22e R shoulder title (1).JPG

R 22e R shoulder title (3).jpg

[Bill A]

Hi Peter, In 1968 the three Canadian services, army, navy, and airforce were unified. The Canadian Forces went to a generic CF green uniform at this time. At first, there was to be very limited regimental identification on the uniform. Similar to the intial policy when battledress came into use in 1938-39. (Canada started to issue BD in 1939). However, this policy started to disappear in the 1970's. Eventually, DND allowed the re-introduction of shoulder titles. The policy allowed for gold or yellow embroidered titles on CF green material. Some units disliked the gold on green and used their previous regimental colours for the new issue of cloth titles for the CF orders of dress. This included the P.P.C.L.I. and the R 22e R, plus others. However, the R 22e R titles were much smaller than the previous battledress issue. The title that you have shown is a 2nd Battalion R 22e R fully embroidered title. These started to appear in the 1980's and were supposed to be obsolete with the issue of cadpat uniforms circa 2001.

[Bill A]

Ed, Check the back of the printed titles. There were at least two major variations of printed titles. One was a much heavier weight of material with a "coarse" ribbed backing material, while the later issue was a lighter Cotton Satin material, with a thin black cotton backing material.

Originally Posted by Bill A

Hi Peter, In 1968 the three Canadian services, army, navy, and airforce were unified. The Canadian Forces went to a generic CF green uniform at this time. At first, there was to be very limited regimental identification on the uniform. Similar to the intial policy when battledress came into use in 1938-39. (Canada started to issue BD in 1939). However, this policy started to disappear in the 1970's. Eventually, DND allowed the re-introduction of shoulder titles. The policy allowed for gold or yellow embroidered titles on CF green material. Some units disliked the gold on green and used their previous regimental colours for the new issue of cloth titles for the CF orders of dress. This included the P.P.C.L.I. and the R 22e R, plus others. However, the R 22e R titles were much smaller than the previous battledress issue. The title that you have shown is a 2nd Battalion R 22e R fully embroidered title. These started to appear in the 1980's and were supposed to be obsolete with the issue of cadpat uniforms circa 2001.

Thanks bill for the info

peter

[edstorey]

Mine are all of the the latter black backed versions.

[edstorey]

These are the smaller CF versions that I have managed to acquire in my travels. The 3BN will be in the next post.

[edstorey]

Here is the 3rd Battalion. Are there any more versions?

[Bill A]

Hi Ed, Here is an image of my accumulation of R 22e R CF titles. I believe that there are two more varieties in addition to these.