Anodised Aluminium Cap Badge Oddities

[hagwalther]

Hi Guys,

Next five.

Let me know if you think they are contemporous or just errors.

Yorkshire Brigade (All Gold)
Irish Guards (All Silver)
Scots Guards (All Silver)
Welsh Guards (All Silver)
Royal Horse Artillery (All Gold)

Regards

Chris

[Alan O]

The top 4 are definately errors esp the Guards ones. Not too sure about the RHA as a brass badge does exist.

Alan

[54Bty]

Gold aa for the RHA is correct and was issued, but not many as by the time it came about most RHA Regiments had purchased their own white metal version, and still do although the silver aa is available.

Catalogue number CB 3035.
Pattern number 19627.
Sealed date 22nd March 1966.

[hagwalther]

Thanks Guys,

Looks like the gold RHA is correct - will remove it from the list.

Regards

Chris

[Peter Brydon]

I dont know if these have been covered before, but I have examples of both the 51st Highland and 52nd Lowland Brigade/Volunteers badges where the saltire cross is chromed metal and the rest of badge is anodised.

In the Lowland badge illustrated the metal of the cross is attracted to a magnet .

I have always understood that these were NCO`s badges but I stand to be corrected if anyone has different information.

I dont know if these should properly be described as anodised badges or not.

P.B.

[Mike H]

Ive come across this too,as to why it was done i havent a clue.Both badges are also found with an aluminium cross.
Is it possible that they were NCO badges for the brigade?

[hagwalther]

Originally Posted by 8thfoot

I dont know if these have been covered before, but I have examples of both the 51st Highland and 52nd Lowland Brigade/Volunteers badges where the saltire cross is chromed metal and the rest of badge is anodised.

In the Lowland badge illustrated the metal of the cross is attracted to a magnet .

I have always understood that these were NCO`s badges but I stand to be corrected if anyone has different information.

I dont know if these should properly be described as anodised badges or not.

P.B.

Hi 8th Foot and Mike,

Again, this has been on my mind for some time and it looks like a good time to open this particular can of worms in regard to anodised aluminium badges that have a multi-part body made of different materials.

I am going to start a new thread on these items with requests for further information if anyone has these badges made in all aluminium so that they can remain in their current places on the web pages. I will try and start the new thread today or possibly tomorrow.

I have been drafting a 'Hybrid' chapter which will contain these multi-material badges.

Mike, I believe that at one stage you had some photos of an enamelled Hampshire Regiment badge that had an anodised aluminium wreath.

Can you please resend?

Regards

Chris

[hagwalther]

Hi Guys,

I have gone through my collectiom and with regard to 51st Highland and 52nd Lowland Brigade/Volunteers badges. These were later used as The Lowland Brigade cap badge and I have an item which is 100% anodised.

A similar item is The Highland Brigade - again, both 100% anodised.

Regards

Chris

[hagwalther]

Hi Guys,

I think that the following anodise aluminium cap badges are all mistakes or unfinished items.

Please confirm or otherwise.


1) Army Catering Corp (We Sustain) (All Silver)
2) Army Catering Corp (We Sustain) (All Gold)
3) Royal Army Medical Corps (All Silver)
4) Women's Royal Army Corps (All Gold)
5) Royal Regiment Of Wales (All Gold)

Regards

Chris

[Alan O]

Chris,

99% certain that they are all errors. The Lowland and Highland Bde were 1958-68 and the 51st Div is a more modern creation. There does not appear to be an rank significance in the new badges they just look nicer.

Alan

[hagwalther]

Hi Guys,

I think these are all errors.


1) Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders (All Gold)
2) Parachute Regiment (All Gold)
3) Special Air Service (All Gold)
4) 7th Duke Of Edinburgh's Own Gurkha Rifles (Cypher Not Void - Silver And Gold)
5) MOD Guard Force - Silver


I actuall own four of the above !!!

Let me know what you think.

Regards

Chris

[jermil]

Hi

The Royal Alderney Militia ACF used Anodised badges in gold on the beret, however on their caps they wore metal bi-metal badges. The AA badge was also used as a centrepiece on the belt buckle.

The 'Officers' of the ACF wore the same style of badge but in bullion wire.

I have never seen the AA badge in silver being worn. here is also apparently a bi metal AA in silver and gold, however, I have never seen one being worn.

regards
Norman

[54Bty]

What badge do you mean at number 5?

[Toby Purcell]

Originally Posted by hagwalther

Hi Guys,

I thought it migh be time to start advancing the anodised aluminium cap badge project slowly.

As such, see attached a list of badges and short descriptions which are all currently included with an entry (some being just a 'Wanted' entry) on the web pages.

I currently consider ALL those shown below to be either mistakes, unfinished or other sort of production error.

As such, would all take a look and tell me those in the list may well be GENUINE specification so that correction may be made and also why the badge is coloured the way it is e.g. general issue, pipers only badge, etc.

I'm not looking at genuine specification for ALL materials not just anodised aluminium.

e.g. If someone knows or owns a genuine issue non anodised badge of (for example) Royal Tank Regiment (All Gold) then please let me know together with the reason why it is that particular colour.

Post answers here or PM me.

Regards

Chris


1) 5th Royal Inniskilling Dragoon Guards (All Gold)
2) Royal Hussars (All Gold)

4) 14th/20th Kings Hussars (All Silver)
5) 15th/19th The Kings Royal Hussars (All Gold)

6) Royal Tank Regiment (All Gold)

8) Cheshire Regiment (All Gold)
9) Duke Of Edinburgh's Royal Regiment (All Gold)
10) Royal Scots (All Gold)

11) Foresters Brigade (All Silver)
12) Yorkshire Brigade (Silver And Black)
13) Yorkshire Brigade (All Gold)
14) Irish Guards (All Silver)
15) Scots Guards (All Silver)

16) Welsh Guards (All Silver)

18) Army Catering Corp (We Sustain) (All Silver)
19) Army Catering Corp (We Sustain) (All Gold)
20) Royal Army Medical Corps (All Silver)



23) Women's Royal Army Corps (All Gold)
24) Royal Regiment Of Wales (All Gold)
25) Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders (All Gold)

26) Parachute Regiment (All Gold)
27) Special Air Service (All Gold)
28) 7th Duke Of Edinburgh's Own Gurkha Rifles (Cypher Not Void - Silver And Gold)

30) MOD Guard Force - Silver

31) Royal Alderney Militia (All Gold)
32) Royal Alderney Militia (All Silver)
33) University Of London OTC (All Silver)
34) Tayforth Universities UOTC (All Silver)
35) Royal Army Medical Corp (Gold snake)

36) Wessex Regiment/Wessex Brigade (All Silver)

Another production error was a bi-metal badge for the Royal Welch Fusiliers with badly distorted flames issued in the early 1980s. The silver coloured circlet was correct but the gold coloured bomb (backing's) flames were totally the wrong shape. Little or no attempt was made to return these to the supplier and they were simply worn out until stocks were expended.

[hagwalther]

Originally Posted by Toby Purcell

Another production error was a bi-metal badge for the Royal Welch Fusiliers with badly distorted flames issued in the early 1980s. The silver coloured circlet was correct but the gold coloured bomb (backing's) flames were totally the wrong shape. Little or no attempt was made to return these to the supplier and they were simply worn out until stocks were expended.

Thanks Toby,

Oh No. Another Classification - mistakes that were actually worn.

Will this never end....

OK Toby, I will keep this bit of infor as a footnote in the revelant chapter.

Regards

Chris