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Old 28-12-10, 03:31 PM
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I've been looking all over and I am afraid I cannot find the address for the Sikorsky Institute. They used to be great at providing information.

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Old 28-12-10, 04:29 PM
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Thank you for looking that one up Peter.

I would try them out Mike, they are always very helpful.
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There is also this association.
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Stowarzyszenie Polskich Kombatantow w W Brytanii (SPK)
(Polish Ex-combatants Association)
240 King Street, London W6 0RF
Tel: 44 181 741 1911 (UK: 0181 741 1911)
Fax: 44 181 748 4558 (UK: 0181 748 4558)
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Mike,What about Pociag Pancerny = Armoured (Pancerny) Train (Pociag)

Polish armoured trains in United Kingdom (1940-1943)
I dywizjon – trains: C, G, E
II dywizjon – trains: A, D,
III dywizjon – trains: B, M, H
IV dywizjon – trains: Nr 10, 11, 12 renamed in 1941 to K, L, J

So your man could be 2/Lt.(PPOR) Z.Wierzbowski, 3rd Division(Dyon) Train(Pociag) Armoured(Pancerny).

Twelve armoured trains were formed in Britain in 1940 as part of the preparations to face a German invasion; these were initially armed with 6pdr Hotchkiss guns and 6 Bren Guns. They were operated by Royal Engineer train crews and manned by Royal Armoured Corps troops. In late 1940 preparations began to hand the trains over to the Polish Army in the West, who operated them until 1942.

From:Balfour, G 1981. The Armoured Train: its development and usage. Batsford

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Old 29-12-10, 11:26 AM
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A few scans of some Polish eagle cap badges I have, unfortunately they're old scans taken somewhat "carelessly" & the badges themselves are'nt to hand.
There's the possibility one may be of use if you crop the prongs from the image:
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File Type: jpg 2 Polish eagles JR GAUNT resize.JPG (79.9 KB, 12 views)
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Item 7, the cast eagle with the shield below it, I have seen identified as being worn by Polish paratroopers.

Can you confirm that that is the meaning of the shield?
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Mike,What about Pociag Pancerny = Armoured (Pancerny) Train (Pociag)

Polish armoured trains in United Kingdom (1940-1943)
I dywizjon – trains: C, G, E
II dywizjon – trains: A, D,
III dywizjon – trains: B, M, H
IV dywizjon – trains: Nr 10, 11, 12 renamed in 1941 to K, L, J

So your man could be 2/Lt.(PPOR) Z.Wierzbowski, 3rd Division(Dyon) Train(Pociag) Armoured(Pancerny).

Twelve armoured trains were formed in Britain in 1940 as part of the preparations to face a German invasion; these were initially armed with 6pdr Hotchkiss guns and 6 Bren Guns. They were operated by Royal Engineer train crews and manned by Royal Armoured Corps troops. In late 1940 preparations began to hand the trains over to the Polish Army in the West, who operated them until 1942.

From:Balfour, G 1981. The Armoured Train: its development and usage. Batsford

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Good work Jo, looks highly likely.



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A few scans of some Polish eagle cap badges I have, unfortunately they're old scans taken somewhat "carelessly" & the badges themselves are'nt to hand.
There's the possibility one may be of use if you crop the prongs from the image:
Hi leigh, very nice images, I can modify one for a thumbnail no problem, many thanks!
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Old 29-12-10, 07:49 PM
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Item 7, the cast eagle with the shield below it, I have seen identified as being worn by Polish paratroopers.

Can you confirm that that is the meaning of the shield?
Sorry, I ca'nt - I believe that the cast badge was used in Italy?
As far as I'm aware Polish Paras wore the "normal" eagle & Amazonian shield without that small additional shield - the plastic economy was worn by a Para.
The brass & copper coloured ones are recognised variants used in the MIddle East & / or Italy, I have'nt got the details to hand.
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Old 29-12-10, 07:58 PM
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Sorry, I ca'nt - I believe that the cast badge was used in Italy?
As far as I'm aware Polish Paras wore the "normal" eagle & Amazonian shield without that small additional shield - the plastic economy was worn by a Para.
The brass & copper coloured ones are recognised variants used in the MIddle East & / or Italy, I have'nt got the details to hand.
Fair enough, as I only read about the shield being used by Polish paratroops on ebay.

So, there must be some other meaning to the additional shield.

It would be interesting to find out what it is.
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This might be helpful for info on Polish badges: http://warrelics.eu/forum/polish-militaria/

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Old 30-12-10, 05:35 PM
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Yes, the moderators Gary Jucha & Antoni Zawadki really know their subject - I "know" them as in email & thread posts because they are fonts of expertise re. Polish militaria & I have some Polish medal & insignia groupings.
Some to paras who dropped at Arnhem / Driel, a man who fought for the Poles / Germans / Poles being twice POW, a member of the 8th Rifle Bn "Bloody Shirts" who fought at Falaise, an NCO with the Poles who fought in the east, some NCO's who fought at Monte Cassino, & an emotive family grouping of a Virtuti Militari awarded to a 1920's Polish infantryman who fought the Russians & the WWII German awards to his son-in-law who was a German Grenadier Feldwebel killed in Russia.

I have an interest in Polish awards & insignia although I do'nt know a great deal about them.
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