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Pattern 350 badge
AFO 654 of February 1944 lists a
Badge, cap, Patt. 350 for T.124 officers not granted commission. Is the pattern 350 badge a Merchant Navy Officers cap badge? thanks Barry |
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No idea, what is AFO 654? If it's a naval directive I don't imagine it'll be for a MN badge. It may possibly be for Warrant Officers who don't hold a commission but a warrant, as implied by the rank
Cheers, Alex |
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Admiralty Fleet Order 4649 of 19th December 1940 describes and illustrates the Cap Badge – T124 Officers;
To be worn by Mercantile Marine officers employed under T124 agreements and who are not granted temporary commissions. “distinctive clear anchor in gold on a raised black circular background surrounded by a double ring of gold wire resting on a laurel leaf design, surmounted by a crown.” According to an internet source "At the beginning of the war the Royal Navy realised that it would not be able to man all the auxiliary vessels it required and so a number of officers and men of the Merchant Navy agreed to serve with the Royal Navy under the T.124 agreement, which made them subject to Naval discipline while generally retaining their Merchant Navy rates of pay and other conditions". Jon |
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Now the big question...has anybody ever seen one of these? I have my doubts if this directive ever came into effect as I have never seen or heard of one of these badges. Does anybody know of such a badge?
Thanks, cheers, Alex |
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Jon,
Thanks for the image. The pattern 350 badge seams to be a cross between the pattern 49 PO/class III and the officers pattern 47 badge. AFO 654 lists the pattern 350 badge at a cost of 7 and 1 The officers pattern 47 metal badge is listed with the same price of 7 and 1 which leads me to think that the P350 was made of the same metal and construction. Barry |
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Hi Barry
Sorry, I don't know the different pattern numbers so that doesn't mean much to me, but it does look very similar in style to the pre-1921 RNR and RNVR cap badges, with a more rounded look to the wreath than the wider WWII style badges...if you know what I mean. I've attached a couple of pics to sort of illustrate my point. It could be they used the RNR/RNVR style badge template as a lot of MN officers were in the reserves? Very interesting topic, it would be great to find out more info, so thanks for bringing it up. Cheers, Alex |
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the only example I have of this kind is this one below : - apparently a modern copy or a fake - see the bad quality of the embroidery work ... - and with a FOULED Anchor in place of a CLEAR one ... On other hand, I've never heard about this class of Mercantile Marine officers employed under T124 agreements and not granted temporary commissions ; What is a T124 agreement ??? We learn every day .....
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I think that the P350 badge will be a metal economy badge.
Similar in design to the metal economy badge of the RN. BArry |
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