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Old 05-01-24, 09:50 AM
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Just received a selection of RAMC badges from Cultman, brought off eBay.
I brought these for one item in the bundle (see attached)
It looks like a 1st Aid Instructor badge in silver & gilt. Size is 24mm x 20mm and no makers name.
I have checked this piece and it is not a collar badge with crown and scroll removed. There is no evidence or marks to say this.
Question - On which uniform would this have worn? Service dress or Blues??
I look forward to your replies...
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Old 05-01-24, 10:14 AM
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Jerry,
I have a similar item (bottom row centre) which shows signs of having crown and scroll removed. Must have been done for a reason?
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Old 05-01-24, 11:07 AM
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Belgian Army nurse ?

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The Belgian Army nurses wore the same badge as the cap badge on their collars.

The Belgian Army nurses wore a cap badge of their own.
It was the collar badge of the Royal Army Medical Corps without the King's crown.
http://www.be4046.eu/ATSWAAF.htm


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Old 05-01-24, 07:35 PM
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My guess would be so it could be worn as a metal qualification badge.

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PS - I've actually been looking for one just for that reason.
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Old 06-01-24, 09:34 AM
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I would have to agree with engr9266. The cap/collar badges with scroll and crown removed are a different shape. The wreath on those badges is very slightly oval but his example appears to be uniformly round. I would agree is is purpose made rather than adapted.
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Old 06-01-24, 09:49 AM
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I would have to agree with engr9266. The cap/collar badges with scroll and crown removed are a different shape. The wreath on those badges is very slightly oval but his example appears to be uniformly round. I would agree is is purpose made rather than adapted.
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I wonder if initially the Belgian Army Nurses used 'modified' RAMC collar badges until they could get their own ones made ?

The photo on the page I linked of "Nurse BLOCH-ERRERA wearing the badge on her field cap and collars" appears to show 'round' badges.

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Found another photo of ' Belgian Military Nurse'.

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/CENGGC/ww1...rse-CENGGC.jpg

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I wonder if initially the Belgian Army Nurses used 'modified' RAMC collar badges until they could get their own ones made ?

The photo on the page I linked of "Nurse BLOCH-ERRERA wearing the badge on her field cap and collars" appears to show 'round' badges.

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The Belgium Army nurses pre war and post war wore a caduceus in a wreath as insignia.

For the Belgium nusrses kitted out in British uniforms, the closest badge to there original badge was a RAMC collar badge sans crown and scroll. These were lugged badges and worn as collars and cap badges.

Due to the low number of these nurses there was no need to have new badges made during the war as the RAMC modified ones sufficed.

Post war the nurses reverted to Belgium made badges.
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Due to the low number of these nurses there was no need to have new badges made during the war as the RAMC modified ones sufficed.
I agree there was no "need" to have new badges made but wonder if there was a "desire" to to have their own badge made (privately ?).

Some of these nurses were from middle/uppper class backgrounds so may not have been happy with a 'modified' badge ?

While Tim's example has had the crown and scroll removed Jerry's one (which he has checked) appears to have been manufactured without a crown or scroll.


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Thinking outside if the box. Could it be something to do with South Africa??
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Old 07-01-24, 09:44 AM
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I will be at Chatham this coming Sunday 14th and I will take it along with me for any member there to have a look.
I have added some (very bad) photo's of said badge and will upload better one's later.
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My initial reaction when I saw the 1st post was to say it looked liked an RAMC officers collar badge sans crown and scroll (The collar badges were more typically round than the oval wreath of the cap badge)

But when comparing to my RAMC officers collar badges there are distinct differences in the wreath, so I too suspect this was specifically made and probably for an officer.

I have seen some images of the SWH (Scottish Womens Hospital) medical staff wearing RAMC collars sans crown and title, so this may have been specifically made for an officer in the SWH c.WWI
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Found a photo of SWH badge :

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The Scottish Women’s Hospital – WW1 Bronzed Collar Badge
https://steadythebuffsmilitaria.co.u...-collar-badge/

Also this photo.

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Found a photo of SWH badge :

https://steadythebuffsmilitaria.co.u...-collar-badge/

Also this photo.

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