British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

Recent Books by Forum Members

   

Go Back   British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum > Australian Military Insignia > The Royal Australian Navy and Air Force (RAN & RAAF)

 Other Pages: Galleries, Links etc.
Glossary  Books by Forum Members     Canadian Pre 1914    CEF    CEF Badge Inscriptions   Canadian post 1920     Canadian post 1953     British Cavalry Badges     Makers' Marks    Pipers' Badges  Canadian Cloth Titles  Books  SEARCH
 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 17-02-18, 11:31 AM
Jackhr Jackhr is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: St Leonards Victoria, Australia
Posts: 1,134
Default AFC Wings

Hi colleagues
what are your thoughts on this wing WW1 period or 1920's

Rob
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMAG3398.jpg (53.4 KB, 67 views)
File Type: jpg IMAG3399.jpg (56.8 KB, 49 views)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 17-02-18, 02:53 PM
arrestingu arrestingu is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: uk
Posts: 2,117
Default

Rob,
Drop Julian Tennant a message , I tend to run my AFC wings by him ,usually after I have bought them though lol .
Cheers
Steve
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 17-02-18, 02:54 PM
arrestingu arrestingu is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: uk
Posts: 2,117
Default

Why the canvas material stitched to back ,...that would be of concern to me .
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 17-02-18, 08:51 PM
Jackhr Jackhr is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: St Leonards Victoria, Australia
Posts: 1,134
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by arrestingu View Post
Why the canvas material stitched to back ,...that would be of concern to me .
Yep that is what has me concerned ,can you PM or email his email address if possible .

Rob
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 18-02-18, 08:40 PM
realownlee realownlee is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: GB
Posts: 137
Default

Bit of a coincidence but a friend has just purchased a padded RAF wing here in the UK which has a similar sewn on backing?....same colour.....not sure...
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 18-02-18, 08:42 PM
Jackhr Jackhr is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: St Leonards Victoria, Australia
Posts: 1,134
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by realownlee View Post
Bit of a coincidence but a friend has just purchased a padded RAF wing here in the UK which has a similar sewn on backing?....same colour.....not sure...
Is it possible for you to get a photo and post it here??

Cheers
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 18-02-18, 08:47 PM
realownlee realownlee is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: GB
Posts: 137
Default

Will ask him if I can post pics. probably be tomorrow now.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 18-02-18, 08:57 PM
realownlee realownlee is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: GB
Posts: 137
Default PADDED RAF WING

RAFWING1.jpg

RAFWING2.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 18-02-18, 09:46 PM
SAS1 SAS1 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,383
Default

Although at an angle, on the photo of the AFC wings the centre line of the crown looks, well, offcentre. The central lettering on both looks a bit wonky too. Although the front of the AFC wing looks pretty good the thread of the RAF wing looks more like course string rather than silk, akin to the Pakistani/Indian repros.

AFC wings are not my area but the overall quality of the two is probably not what I'd expect. The backing of these Indian repro looks messy and is easily recognisable and may explain why an odd backing has otherwise needlessly been sewn on.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 18-02-18, 10:00 PM
Jackhr Jackhr is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: St Leonards Victoria, Australia
Posts: 1,134
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SAS1 View Post
Although at an angle, on the photo of the AFC wings the centre line of the crown looks, well, offcentre. The central lettering on both looks a bit wonky too. Although the front of the AFC wing looks pretty good the thread of the RAF wing looks more like course string rather than silk, akin to the Pakistani/Indian repros.

AFC wings are not my area but the overall quality of the two is probably not what I'd expect. The backing of these Indian repro looks messy and is easily recognisable and may explain why an odd backing has otherwise needlessly been sewn on.
Thanks for posting the photos realownlee and I think we may have 2 repro wings here for sure.

Rob
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 19-02-18, 11:41 AM
Nichollg's Avatar
Nichollg Nichollg is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 140
Default

I reckon these look like a WW2 era reproduction, but as previously stated Julian Tennant will be able to tell you.
Here is a link https://juleswings.wordpress.com/
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 19-02-18, 08:15 PM
realownlee realownlee is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: GB
Posts: 137
Default A couple more views.

RAFWING5.jpg
RAF WING4.jpg No idea why they are sideways I didn't like it as soon as I saw it.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 19-02-18, 08:27 PM
Investment's Avatar
Investment Investment is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 329
Default

Attached Images
File Type: jpg RAF (1).jpg (63.2 KB, 12 views)
File Type: jpg RAF(2).jpg (61.1 KB, 8 views)
__________________
Collector of brass numerals worn within Australia between 1912 - 1918, by all infantry battalion soldiers on the front of their caps and slouch hats.
Always looking to buy or trade with other like minded collectors.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 21-02-18, 11:32 PM
SAS1 SAS1 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,383
Default

Here is an RAF mini wing which has appeared today online. I have several sets of mini pilots wings, RAF, RAAF, RCAF and RNZAF and in the case of the RAF there is a common standard pattern which is frequently seen. I have one plus what I think is a Canadian made pair, all of them finely woven and really quite nice.

Appearing more often now are repro pairs, Pakistani/Indian made and easy to spot immediately. As soon as I saw these I thought repro, due to the shape and , although not so obvious here, the rather string like thread rather than fine silk thread. I looked for a picture if the back (as the Asian repro are all the same, messy) and surprise surprise, there is cloth stitched on.

Although some of my mini wings have cloth, it is exclusively to hold in padding, as on their full sized sisters, either as manufactured or altered by the airmans. These aren't and they are the only flat mini wings I've seen with a backing. Why? Maybe to hide the obvious messy threads...?

(I would add that the dealer selling them is first class, and would not sell repro as original intentionally. Just shows they can easily fool).
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 50746.jpg (20.8 KB, 20 views)
File Type: jpg 50746c.jpg (20.6 KB, 22 views)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

mhs link

All times are GMT. The time now is 11:08 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.