Help identifying this uk badge

[soooz1]

Right i have no reason to believe this is a fake. It came home with my grandfather and his few belongings at the end of the 2nd world war. He was stationed in scotland at the end of the 2nd world war (due to the other troop he was in pretty much died so the remaining members were posted into other troops)

I can't find it anywhere on the net, i have tried to search on here but there are so many other badges i just havent found what i was looking for.

If you could help identify this i would be very grateful as it would be nice to know.

[wardog]

I don't think this is military. It's the motto of the order of the thistle and looks to be a general crest of Scotland in the form of a clan type badge. Regards, Paul.

[soooz1]

well that's what i thought to begin with when i couldn't find it in military references but i cannot find it in clan references either. So im back to the original story of military. Considering he was stationed up in Scotland towards the end of the war i was wondering if anyone new of any stories about "this will have to do for them" or the like?

The closest i found in the clan badge search was one with a more "flaming mane" and extravagant tail. It was solid and not cut out inbetween and the writing was Nobilis Est Ir Leonis.

I have not as of yet found a combination of the rampant lion, the writing and the circled belt. It's always been missing one thing or another.

[wardog]

Yes. I too am having a problem finding another clan type badge the same. One on a shield plaque though- http://www.scotsconnection.com/produ...istory=related
What unit was he originaly with? Bound to be someone on here who can give you more information if you can tell us that. Regards, Paul.

[iaindh]

I have a similar badge but picked it up along the way.
Scot Clan Badge.jpg
I had come to the same conclusion that it was a Scottish national badge; I couldn't find it in the clan badges.

Paul, its interesting that on your link its shown with the Royal Stewart tartan.

I would also be interested to see if it was ever used in a military context.

regards,

Iain

[peter monahan]

The lion rampant - like this one - is the heraldic animal on the Scottish flag and a common symbol for all things Scots. "Nemo me impune lacessit" [No one harms my with impunity] is the clan motto of several clans, I believe, so my money too is on non-military.

Peter

[soooz1]

Both of those pictures are the closest i have ever seen!

My mum seems to think it was the cameronians? but she cannot say that with complete certainty.

He had kept another badge with it which is often described as the "bugle" style. It's small, round, and curves out so its not just flat. It seems to be a brass backing with some kind of light marble effect stone/shell layer on top and then the bugle logo with blue scroll type things top and bottom of bugle from what i can recall.

The story goes along the lines of he started in the RAF in england as one of the blokes who used to remove the chocks from the wheels of the planes .. which of course everytime this story was told someone cannot resist shouting "CHOCKS AWAY!!"

But when his own troop became less and less he was somehow transferred up to scotland to the cameronians (as far as my mum can remember the stories).

We have an old book somewhere that was what the soldiers used to carry with them that contained all their training and test dates along with from what i can remember - information on what jabs they were given and at the back it had the "will" section which my grandad never filled in. Also there is a rate of wage list still intact in its back pocket/sleeve.

However this book looks like his old RAF book which got a piece of paper stapled over the "raf info" page with some form of "land army" version instead.

I know its a badge forum but if you wanna see it let me know and i will scan it and upload it.