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Old 06-12-19, 09:20 AM
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I am trying to date this badge, it is stamped SILVER.

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Old 07-12-19, 12:19 PM
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I would appreciate the help of the forum please, is the badge between the wars, postwar or modern?

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Old 07-12-19, 04:07 PM
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I have read that in the Boer War Coldstream Guards Officers wore a small silver capstar in their slouch hat. On the left hand side also.
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Old 07-12-19, 04:55 PM
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The badge measures 52mm high, 40mm wide...?
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Ok its the larger one out of the two types. Evidence suggests it was worn during the Crimean War i believe. Ill check my notes and get back to you.
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I find that any silver badge that is stamped 'SILVER' rather than hall marked is usually more modern than old.

I would suggest the latter half of the 20th Century.

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Old 07-12-19, 10:41 PM
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I find that any silver badge that is stamped 'SILVER' rather than hall marked is usually more modern than old.

I would suggest the latter half of the 20th Century.

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Yes i believe your right there Simon, im pointing out when they type was worn.
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Yes i believe your right there Simon, im pointing out when they type was worn.
Andy
I am in agreement with this assessment as well. Likely not prior to ww2 in any case. A nice badge however!

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Old 08-12-19, 10:33 AM
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Looking at the photographs, I would certainly think that it has no significant age to it whatsoever, it does appear to lack the quality of badges made prior to the 1960's, subsequently, the rot began to set in.


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Old 08-12-19, 02:56 PM
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Ok its the larger one out of the two types. Evidence suggests it was worn during the Crimean War i believe. Ill check my notes and get back to you.
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There is a book out about the Crimean War and artefacts, the large type cap star is shown. I don't have the book myself, so cant post a picture of it.
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Looking at the photographs, I would certainly think that it has no significant age to it whatsoever, it does appear to lack the quality of badges made prior to the 1960's, subsequently, the rot began to set in.
I duuno Frank. The first badges issued to the ranks of the Queen’s Own Gurkha Logistic Regiment in mid/late 1990's were gold plated and quite a few other modern 'New Metal' badges are absolute stunners.

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I am trying to date this badge, it is stamped SILVER.

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Hi Keith,

Your badge is similar in some ways to the modern first pattern 'New Metal' item which were probably made in mid 1990's before being later replace with non silver pieces with a different pattern No. These first pattern badges were also stamped 'SILVER'.

However, I would say that your badge is not from the 'New Metal' era thus made before 1990. I don't recognise the lugs used and the pin fastener on the back, although similar, does not look like the more modern examples found on this badge.

I would find out when the word 'SILVER' was first used on silver items - can't remember off hand but if an item (or part) was under a certain weight (7.5 grams?) then it was not hallmarked and was just stamped 'SILVER'.

From that date to 1990's would give you a range to explore further.

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Thank you all for the replies

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Hello Keith, I was interested in the 'SILVER' stamp as there were a spate of badges stamped thus around 2006ish. I was mugged into a Berkshire and Westminster Dragoons one. When I received it alarm bells range and the seller, quite remarkably, had another for sale immediately. After that there were quite a few different badges marked 'SILVER'.
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Hello Keith, I was interested in the 'SILVER' stamp as there were a spate of badges stamped thus around 2006ish. I was mugged into a Berkshire and Westminster Dragoons one. When I received it alarm bells range and the seller, quite remarkably, had another for sale immediately. After that there were quite a few different badges marked 'SILVER'.
I believe this is a genuine cap star, just not of great quality. I would have it in my collection.
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