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Old 21-06-20, 09:11 AM
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Any thoughts on who/what these gents are? I've considered National/Veteran Reserve, Ulster Volunteer Force, Special Constabulary (with rifles?) or maybe 'Kitchener's Army'.

Nothing on reverse to indicate location.

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Old 21-06-20, 09:39 AM
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I would say they are VTC, c. 1914/15, wearing enamel lapel badges, no uniforms yet purchased.

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Old 21-06-20, 09:45 AM
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The man in the front row on the left appears to be wearing an armband, possibly with a "V" or an inverted triangle, as Simon said VTC unit.

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Old 22-06-20, 09:43 AM
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Morning Simon and Rob,
Many thanks for your suggestions. I had pretty mich dismissed the VTC due to the absence of the GR brassard but could be.

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Old 22-06-20, 11:22 AM
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I wondered if the armband was a 'rank' as the section commander? The lapel badges do resemble the VTC ones but they look larger. i wondered if they were pre-war County Scouts? I was thinking of the pre-war National Reserve county scouts recruited to guide the army across their local areas rather than Baden Powell! Their badges were oval and that size.

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Old 22-06-20, 11:50 AM
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Cool Corps of Guides

I did wonder whether these men could be from the Corps of Guides, I have a Suffolk and a Cambridgeshire Corps of Guides buttonhole badges, but they are both round and the badges in the photo appear to have a crown or other device.

Corps of Guides badges are scarce and I wonder whether any members have specimens in their collections that do not follow the circular type?

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Old 22-06-20, 02:04 PM
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That's them - guides not scouts!

This Essex site shows that counties which is the same size as the Reserve so could be either. https://www.essexmilitarybadges.uk/home-defence-units/
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Old 23-06-20, 11:47 AM
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I'm discounting my thought that they might be Ulster Volunteer Force as photos don't show their badges as usually having crowns.

I like the suggestion of Guides but apart from the Essex example in the link supplied by Alan I don't recall seeing any others.

I've had another look under a magnifying glass but there are no details on the badges. One chap sports a metal? shield badge in his cap.

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Old 23-06-20, 01:11 PM
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I realise I am repeating myself, but, the photo is typical of early VTC volunteers. Everything about it says to me VTC.

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Could these chaps be Boer War Vets at the time of the start of WW1,Certainly looks as if one is wearing his QSA ? Another thought is could the badges they are all wearing be Special Constables ? Long Shot I know,
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