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Old 29-09-12, 04:08 PM
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Thanks everyone for your input so far. The wings shown are awesome, and Steven, you and your Great Uncle have done us all a great service, showing that there's a good chance the dual language wings were worn wartime. I have always believed this to be true, and now we have yet another puzzle piece. Hopefully others will see this thread and join in. Anyone else have some South African wings to share?
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Old 30-09-12, 03:05 PM
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Here are a few wings from the collection. My late mother served during WW2 and brother in the 1980s - 1990s.

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File Type: jpg AG WW2 red letters.jpg (49.8 KB, 12 views)
File Type: jpg B Bomb Aimer WW2 Brit pattern.jpg (34.8 KB, 12 views)
File Type: jpg Nav Obs WW2.jpg (57.3 KB, 11 views)
File Type: jpg NAV WW2 Brit pattern.jpg (27.3 KB, 13 views)
File Type: jpg OBS WW2 Brit pattern.jpg (45.9 KB, 12 views)
File Type: jpg Pilot WW 2.jpg (33.2 KB, 15 views)
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File Type: jpg Radio Sig WW2 Brit pattern.jpg (28.7 KB, 13 views)
File Type: jpg RO WW2 Brit pattern.jpg (16.6 KB, 11 views)
File Type: jpg SAAF service tunic Sgt Air Gunner 1942 - 1950s.jpg (37.5 KB, 28 views)
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Old 01-10-12, 12:15 PM
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Here are some of my SAAF Brevet collection from that period. I had the help of Col Graham Du Toit who helped me verify which was used by the RAF and which was SAAF. AS far as I know I am missing a couple of "Crowned" ones. I have also seen some pictures of "field made" brevets which were variants from the RAF Observer brevet.
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Old 01-10-12, 05:41 PM
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I find it interesting that the english abbreviation comes before the Afrikaan designation on all but the Aerial Photographer......wonder why?
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Old 01-10-12, 10:50 PM
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Madziro

Your 'AG', 'S' and 'RO' are all RAF pattern, as is the Observer 'O'. The others are all South African, having a distinct shape wing and wreath. Lovely Air Sergeant tunic with British Pattern wing. I have an Officers uniform with a flat British AG wing.
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Old 15-10-12, 12:23 AM
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An update to this thread....I just took posession of this uniform from a very good friend of mine, and although the BDU is RCAF the wing isn't......Is this a South African wing? I have never seen one like it before, but the construction mirrors SA wings, the distinct crown style, and white wreath?

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Old 15-10-12, 06:50 PM
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Wing is SA type, I have seen them before, although as before I have no confirmation they were worn during WW2. BD looks post war?
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Old 15-10-12, 08:33 PM
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BD is postwar, early 50's. Odd thing though the BDU was made in Quebec City, has "Canada" Tabs and CVSM ribbon, yet a South African wing? I know it could have been put together, but I wonder if they are original to each other?
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Old 16-10-12, 11:14 AM
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Hi All
I don't thinkthat's an SA wing. Looks wrong to me,maybe a theatre made wing?
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Old 16-10-12, 06:01 PM
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Hi All
I don't thinkthat's an SA wing. Looks wrong to me,maybe a theatre made wing?
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I disagree, its a definate South African style crown, and white wreath, also common on SA wings. If RCAF theatre made, I'd suggest it would still ahve a brown wreath, although as the RCAF were generally the only others to wear crowned wings it might explain why he 'got away with it'. Im sure I have some sort of photo of one somewhere.
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Old 21-10-12, 03:22 PM
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Hi Mike,
Found anouther photograph for you. This time of an Air Gunner in the Rhodesian Air Force.

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Old 22-10-12, 01:25 AM
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Thank You Steven, that's a great one!
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Old 17-11-12, 02:13 PM
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Hi Mike
Hers is the discharge certificate you asked after.

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Old 20-11-12, 09:22 AM
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There is another factor to throw into the pot of things to weigh up about what the SAAF wore as brevets during WW2. Being in the desert, and being a smaller air force, supplies were harder to come by, and other forces supplies were much more readily available. I have a few pictures of some SAAF members wearing non -SAAF issued items, it is clear that they were more preoccupied about just getting on with the job at hand. Here are 2 of the anomalies.
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Old 20-11-12, 06:51 PM
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There is another factor to throw into the pot of things to weigh up about what the SAAF wore as brevets during WW2. Being in the desert, and being a smaller air force, supplies were harder to come by, and other forces supplies were much more readily available. I have a few pictures of some SAAF members wearing non -SAAF issued items, it is clear that they were more preoccupied about just getting on with the job at hand. Here are 2 of the anomalies.
I can't see the second pic too well, what are you referring to exactly?
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