Long Sliders Thread

[grenadierguardsman]

Originally Posted by Nozzer

Here shown next to a badge from the same die, but with a more normal slider.

Same Die ? Different leaf pattern. ( In hand )
Andy

[manchesters]

Originally Posted by Jelly Terror

Not the longest of long sliders on these next two badges (42mm each), which begs the question as to where the line between a long slider and an average length slider should be.









Regards,

JT

I always considered the length of slider that is visible below the badge to determine if it was a true 'long slider', rather than the overall length.

regards

[KLR]

Exactly !
I know I mentioned this in earlier posts to this thread BUT AGAIN that is precisely why I measure my sliders as in eg slider 35/7, or slider 40/17 which is the full length of the slider (the 35 or the 40/) and the length it protrudes below the bottom of the badge (the /7 or the 17) which shows very clearly when they are 'long'. These two examples are taken only from Pattern 4362A/1896 KLR OR cap badges.


They also appear on King's Regt Patt 10042/1926 and on various TF / TA badges

Incidentally, the sliders attached to Glengarry badges (ie HPCs) in 1903 are about 60/16 !!!

[Nozzer]

Originally Posted by grenadierguardsman

Same Die ? Different leaf pattern. ( In hand )
Andy

I see what you mean by the leaf (in hand) pattern. What I will say though, is that this pattern of badge (pattern no. 4554, sealed 1897), worn between 1898 and 1937 has many variants. However, one thing that they all have in common is that the olive sprig that britannia is holding will ALWAYS have five leaves. What you are seeing here, is a badly cut out badge resulting in a slightly "different leaf pattern". So, please believe me when I say that they both come from the same die.

Andy

[grenadierguardsman]

Originally Posted by Nozzer

I see what you mean by the leaf (in hand) pattern. What I will say though, is that this pattern of badge (pattern no. 4554, sealed 1897), worn between 1898 and 1937 has many variants. However, one thing that they all have in common is that the olive sprig that britannia is holding will ALWAYS have five leaves. What you are seeing here, is a badly cut out badge resulting in a slightly "different leaf pattern". So, please believe me when I say that they both come from the same die.

Andy

Thanks Nozzer.
Andy

[Nozzer]

Originally Posted by grenadierguardsman

Thanks Nozzer.
Andy

It is probably easier to see when you have both badges in hand I guess.

Andy

[Nozzer]

Hello?

45mm from bend to bottom of shank.

Looks to be unused, no apologies for poor photography, will probably be sold very soon.

[Jelly Terror]

Originally Posted by Nozzer

Hello?

45mm from bend to bottom of shank.

Looks to be unused, no apologies for poor photography, will probably be sold very soon.

Lovely badge, Andy.

[Phil2M]

Originally Posted by Nozzer

Hello?

45mm from bend to bottom of shank.

Looks to be unused, no apologies for poor photography, will probably be sold very soon.

How much is it, Andy?

[Frank Kelley]

I like that, very nice indeed.

Originally Posted by Nozzer

Hello?

45mm from bend to bottom of shank.

Looks to be unused, no apologies for poor photography, will probably be sold very soon.

[Nozzer]

I agree, it is rather nice

Originally Posted by Phil2M

How much is it, Andy?

In the process of clearing out my badges at the moment Phil. I will bring it next time I see you.

[tonyb]

Thought this one may be of interest, 11mm Gaunt marked York and Lancs.
Long slider.
Tony.

[manchesters]

Tony,

I dont class that as a 'long slider' badge.

The length to be considered is that which extends beyond the base of the badge.

See my post above on 9.9.2017.

regards

[Jelly Terror]

Originally Posted by tonyb

Thought this one may be of interest, 11mm Gaunt marked York and Lancs.
Long slider.
Tony.

Nice example, Tony. Thanks for posting, mate.

JT

[Phil2M]

Originally Posted by manchesters

Tony,

I dont class that as a 'long slider' badge.

The length to be considered is that which extends beyond the base of the badge.

See my post above on 9.9.2017.

regards

So if Tony's slider was removed and soldered back on, on the bottom of the badge, it would become a long slider? Even though its still the exact same length.

I think my brain just had some kind of seizure and died.

Its a shame the same rule doesn't apply to anatomy. I'd have it put on my ankle.

Thanks Andy, hope it wont be too long before I can make up for the Chelmsford incident.