Any King's Colonials (American) Experts ? - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

Roy · #1 06-03-17, 08:33 PM

Hi Gents,

I don' have any examples of the King's Colonial badges but I'm trying to educate myself.

In regards the 'British American' examples, can I ask if there are any experts here that can clearly demonstrate the way to identify a totally correct example?

Maybe too much to ask but thought it worth a try.

Cheers,

Roy

Chipper · #2 06-03-17, 08:55 PM

Hi Roy,

This interests me as well, but so far, I have not found much information anywhere. however, here is an old thread i did find recently:

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...ad.php?t=50826

But generally, there doesn't seem to be a lot of definitive info on these. e-bay of course, is awash with what i assume, 99% of the time, are copies. I guess, like many Victorian era badges, the quality of the badge may be a deciding factor; i.e. sharp detail to the front and back. Most e-bay ones have very poor definition. I see this thread above (and another embedded in it) also discuss the lugs, and that info makes sense.

Anyway, hope it's some help. Do you know of any reference material (besides Kipling & King)?

Cheers, Tim

PS hopefully some of the posters in the thread will see this and lend a hand.

Roy · #3 06-03-17, 09:01 PM

Hi Tim,

Thanks for that. I have seen the thread you mention (along with others) and came away more confused, although with all due respect, that was probably me and not those who contributed. I don't know of any other reference than K&K.

I would eventually like similar details on the other King's Colonial badges too but didn't want to confuse the thread.

My hope was that someone here would have studied these a little and perhaps have a lot more experience than I and of course be willing to share it.

Some of these are a little pricey and I would much prefer to get a little educated before forking out the cash, so let's hope for a few 'scholarly' replies.

Cheers,

Roy

Sonofacqms · #4 06-03-17, 10:16 PM

I certainly am no expert on these, but I do have a New Zealand Squadron badge which I am sure is original and is very well defined on thin gilding metal with blackened pinched loops.

Typical of course of original Victorian badges where quality was paramount.

Rob

Roy · #5 06-03-17, 10:40 PM

Thanks Rob,

Although my comments were to the 'American' badges specifically, I would also welcome comments and images that can highlight the correct features of any of the King's Colonial badges. This is an area I have little knowledge of and with so many fakes out there, some really clear clarifications would always be appreciated - by me at least.

Cheers,

Roy

Chipper · #6 07-03-17, 10:32 AM

OK, I'll contribute what I can, which is not much:

These are the lugs from the New Zealand "E" squadron I have, (formed out of the "C" Australasian squadron in 1902). The lugs have feet, but they are very nicely and neatly done, (and the seller previously ran it past the forum where a couple of Lads liked it: http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...%27s+colonials )

I do imagine there will be many varying opinions as to what is or isn't OK with these badges, because information is scarce and the fakers busy, so I guess we should try and keep an open mind, and listen to all the opinions that hopefully will come this way before making as informed an opinion as possible.

Cheers, Tim

barriefield-brian · #7 07-03-17, 05:52 PM

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Here is the one I have, no idea on value just saw it and liked it. If they are scarce I might consider selling it. Cheers Brian

Roy · #8 07-03-17, 05:59 PM

Hi Brian,

If it is totally correct (I have no idea hence this thread) and if the price is right, I may be interested. I wouldn't mind a really nice Boer War example, not sure if this is or not. Any comments gentlemen?

Cheers,

Roy

manchesters · #9 07-03-17, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy

Hi Brian,

If it is totally correct (I have no idea hence this thread) and if the price is right, I may be interested. I wouldn't mind a really nice Boer War example, not sure if this is or not. Any comments gentlemen?

Cheers,

Roy

Roy,

From those photos, my advice - DONT buy it.

regards

Hoot · #10 07-03-17, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roy

Hi Brian,

If it is totally correct (I have no idea hence this thread) and if the price is right, I may be interested. I wouldn't mind a really nice Boer War example, not sure if this is or not. Any comments gentlemen?

Cheers,

Roy

Roy, The King's Colonials never saw overseas service in the Boer War. They were raised in November 1901 as part of the Home Defence Forces.