Victorian Highland Light Infantry

[Wmr-RHB]

Originally Posted by Tinto

Hi Henk,
No, book does not state any more details, sorry.
On closer examination, I see that the picture in the book does have the monogram LRV which makes my badge more of an oddity!
Cheers, Tinto

You mean that your's has HLI and not LRV? That is indeed interesting. It could then belong to the 1VB and/or 2nd VB and/or 3rd VB, HLI (in 1887 retitled from the 5th, 6th and 8th LRV).

The 9thLRV also being a volunteer battalion of the HLI, the 4th in rank, never realy became one. It was retitled 9th Lanarkshire Volunteer Rifle corps (an about face) like the other RVCs that hadn't converted to VBs. They thus would have continued to use the LRV badge.

As I said interesting. And thanks for the information.

Cheers,

[Tinto]

Yes, Henk, mine has the HLI monogram.
Thanks for the information.
Cheers, Tinto

[fougasse1940]

The badge in the first post has Assaye erased rom the scroll, but also the reverse leaded in, which seems odd and probably not done at the time.
Tinto's badge has an applied scroll, there is no scroll in the reverse die.

Rgds, Thomas.

[JerryBB]

Originally Posted by fougasse1940

The badge in the first post has Assaye erased rom the scroll, but also the reverse leaded in, which seems odd and probably not done at the time.
Tinto's badge has an applied scroll, there is no scroll in the reverse die.

Rgds, Thomas.

Hi Thomas, I am not clear as to what you mean when you post that the "the reverse leaded in", can you explain?

Thanks.

[2747andy]

Looks to me as if the die has been altered and not the struck badge itself!

Andy

[fougasse1940]

Leaded in, as in filled with lead? or Solder or something similar. Point is, if Assaye is erased from the front, as it certainly looks like it in the pic, it should still be be visible in the reverse. The area in the rear where Assaye should have been visible if it was erased from the front seems to have a different colour than the rest of the rear.
Otherwise, the badge would have been made from an obverse Assaye die, which was erased, and a reverse non Assaye die. There is seeding in the reverse scroll ends, not in the central part of the scroll, why?

Rgds, Thomas.

[JerryBB]

Hi Thomas, it is not filled with lead or any other metal, just looks that way in the pics. It is still dark here, but I'll post some more later when the sun comes up.

Appears to be made that way as if struck from an altered die as Andy mentions and not erased as I thought at first.

[2747andy]

I'm pretty sure that it is the die that has been altered and not the badge itself, the seeding is present as it is only the letters that have been erased! I have a similar example which appears to have left the factory with a poorly eradicated Assaye scroll?

Andy

[JerryBB]

Originally Posted by 2747andy

I'm pretty sure that it is the die that has been altered and not the badge itself, the seeding is present as it is only the letters that have been erased! I have a similar example which appears to have left the factory with a poorly eradicated Assaye scroll?

Andy

Hi Andy,

do you have any idea or knowledge of why this was done? Do you know who they were issued to and was this for the 2nd Boer war?

Thanks for adding your input on this.

[JerryBB]

Some detail pics of the scroll, after a clean.

[2747andy]

Jerry,
to be honest I don't know, my guess would be a WW1 measure to respond to demand? Using old dies/patterns to produce badges quickly?

Andy

[JerryBB]

Originally Posted by 2747andy

Jerry,
to be honest I don't know, my guess would be a WW1 measure to respond to demand? Using old dies/patterns to produce badges quickly?

Andy

Thanks Andy. That was my first thought which I mentioned in an earlier post, but I wondered if for WWI they would have used the KC version.

[2747andy]

Originally Posted by JBBOND

Thanks Andy. That was my first thought which I mentioned in an earlier post, but I wondered if for WWI they would have used the KC version.

Jerry,
it has the flat topped crown and also smaller than the standard QVC, so what is obvious to collectors, may not have been the case to the manufacturers? Similar to the slidered East Surreys badge, which is generally thought to be a c.WW1 product?

Andy

[JerryBB]

Originally Posted by 2747andy

Jerry,
it has the flat topped crown and also smaller than the standard QVC, so what is obvious to collectors, may not have been the case to the manufacturers? Similar to the slidered East Surreys badge, which is generally thought to be a c.WW1 product?

Andy

Of course it is ANDY, having a brain failure on crown types at the moment. This type of crown tends to be early 20th century before the higher dome Kings crown becomes the standard version? Or do they overlap?