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#1
22-02-17, 06:34 PM
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volunteer rifles - white stripe around forearm
Good morning,
The group of four images are approximately contemporary (1868-1872) photographs of members of Norfolk Volunteer Riles Corps. They are from a search of the Norfolk Museums Collection. Each individual has a thin white ribbon over the braid of the Austrian Knot on their right forearms but not their left. Other men shown in the collection do not have these stripes on the arms. The fifth image (I did not record where this is from) is from between 1872 and 1877. It shows a member of the Yarmouth Rifles wearing a black stripe in the same, right forearm location. What are these stripes? Rob. 
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#2
22-02-17, 07:04 PM
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Rob,
That is an "Efficiency Ring" in silver worn by Volunteers, returned as effective in rifle drill and practice in the last annual return of their Corps. Worn from c. 1860 to 1881 regards
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#3
22-02-17, 07:44 PM
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Thanks for that explanation.
Would men accumulate stripes until they had enough to earn an efficiency star? Is the black strip along the same lines? Rob.
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#4
22-02-17, 07:50 PM
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Rob,
The ring was the forerunner of the Diamond Lozenge in 1881. Only one stripe was worn. Your photos are so small I cant see any black ring, but the only ring worn was in silver. regards
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Simon Butterworth Manchester Regiment Collector Rank, Prize & Trade Badges British & Commonwealth Artillery Badges Last edited by manchesters; 22-02-17 at 10:48 PM.
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#5
22-02-17, 09:31 PM
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Here is a larger image of the gent with the black stripe (at least it appears dark stripe in a black and white image) and what may be efficiency stars above the stripe. His hat suggests the photo may be earlier than my notes say.
Ideas anyone? Rob.
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#6
22-02-17, 09:37 PM
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..and even larger...
Rob.
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#7
22-02-17, 10:52 PM
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Rob,
It appears to be the Efficiency cuff ring but in the facings of the Corps which look like black or dark green on grey uniform. It appears that they adopted it in regimental facings the same as the efficiency stars above it and rank badges, but the Vol. Regs say it should be silver. The ring should have been replaced by the Diamond lozenge c. 1881 but Volunteers Corps were slow to follow regs and many had their own idea of what to wear. PS - he is wearing the "Last Shako" 1868 - 1878 but as I said, individual Corps may have chosen to wear it beyond that date. I would think the photo is about 1880 -1882. regards
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#8
23-02-17, 01:50 PM
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Great info. Thank you. Rob.
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#9
23-02-17, 02:14 PM
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The attached is from "Volunteer Regulations 1881"
P.B.
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#10
23-02-17, 02:21 PM
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Peter,
Thanks for that. Para 692 explains the continued use of the cuff ring after 1881. regards
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#11
23-02-17, 08:05 PM
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Might this be the origins of differences between the Norfolk Vol Bn after the adoption of red tunics and before all battalions adopted yellow lettering (itself a departure from white)?
1. 1st VB Source details not recorded 2. 2nd VB http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ad.php?t=69087 3. 3rd VB Scanned from Storey 1995 3b. 3rd VB Scanned from ebay 4a. 4th VB http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ad.php?t=69087 4b. 4th VB https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-us/a...f-a432012d222a Last edited by rob carman; 23-02-17 at 09:17 PM. Reason: missing verb
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#12
23-02-17, 08:57 PM
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Your post makes no sense.
Please check it. regards
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#13
23-02-17, 09:22 PM
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I have just edited the post. Does it make any more sense now? Rob.
Added: I don't think that helped so I'll try again. I was trying to establish a link between the black efficiency stripe and a trace of independence in the later 4th Norfolk VB. According to a unit history, the 4th Vb kept its grey uniforms after the other three Norfolk VB had adopted red and even once it made the switch, the 4th initially kept its black lettering. On consideration though, the starting premise is duff. The Yarmouth Coy (black stripe) did not become part of the 4th VB. Last edited by rob carman; 24-02-17 at 01:19 AM. Reason: added text
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#14
24-02-17, 10:46 AM
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a few more shoulder titles
On the first photo the strap has been turned around then a t4norfolk fitted. The second photo shows the other side with black edging added aswell. Last edited by norfolk regt man; 24-02-17 at 11:09 AM.
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24-02-17, 11:23 AM
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Quote:
Interesting subject isnt it, the RVC. regards
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