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SA pith helmet badges
Hi All
Here are a few badges which I believe are standard badges, specifically made with double-blades for fastening to pith sun helmets. I would be interested to know if anyone knows what dates these would have been made or if anyone has any other examples. The numeral '3' is one of the ones worn on the regimental flash by the Natal Mounted Rifles. Unfortunately the First City Reg is missing one of the blade-pairs. Cheers, Alex |
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Hi Alex,
What a interesting post!!!! I haven't actually seen any with pairs of double blades; would these have been for fixing through the Pagri or through the helmet itself? regards, Iain
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Hi Alex,
It would be nice to get some clarity on these 'bladed' badges. I have seen these before and was always under the impression that they were recently made (1970's/1980's) copies from original dies with an incorrect attachment. The ones I saw were also very 'clean like these as if come straight from the manufacturer and never been in use in its life. Maybe someone like Sam Foote could give his opinion. Steven |
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Hi Steven
I don't know about them being fakes, I hadn't considered that option. The numeral '3' is definitely not, because I got that from the family of the guy who wore it. My personal feeling is that these are original though, but I'm always up to be corrected. Iain - I don't know if they went all the way through the helmet or just through the pagri, but judging on the length of the blades, I would say they could have been fitted either way. Cheers, Alex |
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Hi Alex,
I believe you are correct re. the #3. It looks ligit to me. As for the other two I have my reservations. I used to have the 1st City badge with blades as yours and felt at the time that it was very 'tinny' unlike a quality white metal lugged badge. I also have the TS badge and an earlier TS Volunteers, both with blades (though if I remember correctly) broken off. The blades on these were positioned EW, but attached vertically and in the position of the garter. Yours appear to be attached to the star and EW horizontally.... just an observation. If I find my two I will scan and post. Steven PS. Here are the two TS I have with prongs (all broken off though). The top badge is TS with prongs on star. The bottom badge is TSV with prongs on garter. Last edited by Milmed; 19-09-12 at 07:45 AM. Reason: Adding pictures |
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Hi all,
the "3" would have been worn on the side of the helmet over the flash; would, (for example,) the TS have been worn on the front of the helmet like a helmet plate, therefore EW fixing, as the badge would have to wrap around. I dont think the direction of the attaching of the actual blades EW or NS is important as different makers would vary providing the orientation is correction. I stand to be corrected. regards, Iain
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I have a Cape Fortress Engineers badge with these fittings(Owen 1370). I am happy it is original and that places the time line around WW1. Regards Andrew
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I have a similar Transvaal Scottish badge and was informed by the former trustee of their museum that it was worn only in 1922.
The numerals were worn on the side of a pith helmet and were also worn by the different regiments of the SAMR. |
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I believe these would have been attached to the Pagri. Causing no damage to the Pith Helmet.
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