Very Strange Indeed - Hertfordshire badge (any ideas?)

[Luke H]

Hi Guys,

I was looking thru a sellers feedback items to check out how 'honest' has been and I found this little oddity.

A pre 19 badge of the Beds but with a scroll reading 'Hertfordshire'

I suppose there are a couple questions really that could be asked:
1) Is it a 'genuine' item? (N.B it has no braze holes and the slider isn't that great, so I'd say it's probably not WW1 vintage)
2) Why was it made? (over zealous restrike/privately produced - for a snipe at the Beds for not including Herts in the title despite large nos of men from the county serving in that Regiment?)

A snip for £8 (which it sold for) even just for a muse I think you'll agree.

Any ideas anyone?

Cheers,

Luke

[Alan O]

Luke,

It is difficult to tell how well stamped the back is and whether it is genuine or a fantasy piece. All I can think of is a School OTC or CCF? I have never seen one before. I don't think that it is Canadian but I leave that to our Canadian experts to confirm this.

Alan

[Luke H]

Cheers Alan, was worried this thread was going to die a quick death.
Its certainly an interesting badge any rate. Hopefully our Canadian cousins can confirm or not if its anything to do with their mob.

I'll have a bit of a look see online into the possibility of OTC formation.

Ta

Luke

[Wyn vdSchee]

Definitely not a Canadian badge. I know of no places named Hertford in Canada and the only Bedford is a small village on the Quebec side of the border with Vermont. Most Canadian militia infantry regiments were named for the counties in which they were located. The city units had grander names
Wyn

[dragonz18]

Luke,
sent a quick request for info, to a Bedford Regt. collector friend . Initial speculations that I had, have now been changed & answered........refer to K&K 1199 ,Hertfordshire Militia Forage Cap Badge 1898.

Cheers !
Steve

[Luke H]

Originally Posted by dragonz18

Luke,
sent a quick request for info, to a Bedford Regt. collector friend . Initial speculations that I had, have now been changed & answered........refer to K&K 1199 ,Hertfordshire Militia Forage Cap Badge 1898.

Cheers !
Steve

Cheers Steve, I really should buy K&K trouble is the money would be better spent on badges I need espically as I already know which ones I'm after.

We can definately say it's a restrike then as it's not lugged and has no braze holes.

Mystery solved

Ta very much,

Luke

[Luke H]

Originally Posted by Wyn vdSchee

Definitely not a Canadian badge. I know of no places named Hertford in Canada and the only Bedford is a small village on the Quebec side of the border with Vermont. Most Canadian militia infantry regiments were named for the counties in which they were located. The city units had grander names
Wyn

Cheers Wyn for the Candian info, it was a long shot as I guessed there wouldn't be two counties named Hertfordshire without one having the prefix 'new' or something.

Thanks,

Luke

[dragonz18]

Luke ,
Glad to be able to help !
If you have a list of some of the badges that you are after, it may pay to PM it to me, so I can keep a look-out here in NZ, where the prices can be more reasonable, generally.
Cheers !
Steve

[orasot]

Luke,
Herts militia it is, there was one in the last Bosleys auction, lot 61. Listed as other ranks cap badge 1898 -1908, with lugs. Sold for £39.
All the best, Wilf.