The Buffs - Blackened Brass

[Luke H]

Does anyone know if a Territorial Battalion of The Buffs wore a blackened brass cap badge?

I know a BB badge was worn by the 1st V.B. and a friend has shown me his which has a scroll attached that reads 1st Volr Battn.

I’ve also seen another BB Buffs without the scroll (or any signs of one) on a long slider, owned by another friend.

The slider on my badge is not as long, however, there is a feint crimp mark in the same position as the scroll-less long slidered badge.

Whatever it is it’s a very attractive and I feel early (pre-WW1) badge.

[wardog]

May well be a makers variation but I tend to think non connected tail tips equal an early badge. Regards, Paul.

[Mike B]

Would you rule out a variant of 4th Bn? - Although that had a 4th Bn The Buffs - on the scroll KK1699. I can not put my fingers on mine but KK describe it as Bze (Can not recall if blades) - Could Bze be Officer and Blackened without 4th Bn scroll be ORs?.

No doubt someone will put me right
Mike

Update - I think there is a thread on here (sorry can not transfer link here) describing 4th Bn as blackened brass and showing with lugs so - I am either wrong re OR / Officer variant speculation; or the one illustrated in post 1 may predate manufacture with a 4th Bn scroll?
OR there is another explanation.

[Luke H]

Thanks gents.

Tail tip isn’t connected on my badge, albeit, it has been knocked so may appear so in the pic.

Other V.B. badges attached and in link:

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...3&d=1482248918

It’s an idea Mike, however, this badge is slidered and all the 4th V.B. scroll badges I’ve seen are on loops perhaps suggesting they’re earlier than the badge in the opening post.

[Mike B]

Originally Posted by Luke H

Thanks gents.



It’s an idea Mike, however, this badge is slidered and all the 4th V.B. scroll badges I’ve seen are on loops perhaps suggesting they’re earlier than the badge in the opening post.

Hi Luke, I was thinking 4th TF not Vols (as you post in post 4 above) - but may be way off. I apologise for not remembering if my 4th TF was lugs or slider - but I see your point. On reflection, following my first post, I don't think mine was OSD Bze on blades - more likely Blackened Brass but with '4th Bn The Buffs' scroll (as yours looks to be) although KK suggest Bze. All the best Mike

[Luke H]

I understand now Mike, sorry for misunderstanding. I had no idea 4th TF Bn wore a BB badge so that could be a contender if it’s the case.

[Frank Kelley]

A really nice and pleasing badge, I too, would think pre war.

Originally Posted by Luke H

Does anyone know if a Territorial Battalion of The Buffs wore a blackened brass cap badge?

I know a BB badge was worn by the 1st V.B. and a friend has shown me his which has a scroll attached that reads 1st Volr Battn.

I’ve also seen another BB Buffs without the scroll (or any signs of one) on a long slider, owned by another friend.

The slider on my badge is not as long, however, there is a feint crimp mark in the same position as the scroll-less long slidered badge.

Whatever it is it’s a very attractive and I feel early (pre-WW1) badge.