Loyal Pettigo Infantry 1796 Shoulder Plate

[Rob Dekker]

Flying blind here. Is it real and if so, value? Sorry for the poor pics...as supplied to me.

Many thanks!!!

[Jeff Mc William]

Hi Rob
Thanks for the interesting "pics". The SBP looks fine to me. Typical of a multitude of Local Militia and Volunteers SBPs during the period 1793 to 1802 and a plethora of titles.
I feel sure this will be of great interest to our Irish experts on the forum and look forward to hearing more from them about this obscure regiment and its activities.
I understand Pettigo, being a "border town" had a traumatic time during the 1922 "troubles". Regards Jeff

[ebro]

Hi,
Pettigo was not a border town in 1796 as there was no border then.
I believe it was one of the local militias, raised by the rich land owners, to quell rebellions by the United Irishmen around that time.
Eddie

[Jeff Mc William]

sorry Eddie
I stand corrected..tho' my last remark was just an "aside" and did refer to the 1922 era.

[connaught]

see here http://www.nam.ac.uk/online-collecti...c=1979-08-29-1

[ebro]

Jeff,
the troubles in 1922 were, more or less, as a direct result of the introduction of the "new" border. That was when the Ulster Special Constabulary was raised, by the rich land owners, to quell rebellion by the Irish Volunteers.
Little changes here in a couple of hundred years.
Eddie

[Rob Dekker]

So, it's authentic? What kind of value?

Thanks all!!!

[John Mulcahy]

a cursory search shows the following

This gentleman is asking US$950 for one - no indication of condition.

http://www.rarecoin.com/irish/misc.html

a similar plate to a different volunteer unit sold in Dublin €750.00

http://www.adams.ie/COMRAGH-INFANTRY...iew=lot_detail

Another similar plate for yet a different unit, €1,100.00

http://www.adams.ie/9885/LAWYERS-COR...ield-below-the

Yet another, Clough Infantry Georgian OR’s cross / shoulder belt plate circa 1779-1815 has been sitting for quite some time with Mr Bosley with an asking Price: 1200.00 GBP

http://www.coldstreammilitaryantiques.com/shop.php

John

[Rob Dekker]

Many thanks!!!

[mule-73k]

Just to add a cautionary note on these plates,. 1796 was the year of the formation of The Loyal Orange Order and in 1896 to celebrate the 100 year anniversary the LOL commissioned many of these old cross belt plates to be redone in their own areas. So there is difficulty in authenticating them. They were made to the same pattern as the originals often on the same forge in the same village by the same family of blacksmiths............

One in the condition as you have is in my estimation in the lower price bracket.

Regards,

Dave