COMPLETELY NO IDEA

[joestockil]

Hi everyone,

I have no clue at all on this one so would really appreciate any help.

Thanks in advance.

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[Bill A]

US Army 7th Infantry Division.

[joestockil]

Thanks very much Bill

[davidwyke]

Hi

It's US Army - 7th Infantry Division. Worn WW2 but also produced post war.

David

PS.... didn't notice Bill had already solved it!

[dobw]

7th Infantry Division, probably late 50s/early 60s vintage, as it has the dark AG ("Army Green") border, but not the "Merrowed Edge"

[davidwyke]

Originally Posted by dobw

7th Infantry Division, probably late 50s/early 60s vintage, as it has the dark AG ("Army Green") border, but not the "Merrowed Edge"

Looking at the enlarged photo, it appears to have tan colour outer edge thread. Wouldn't this make it more likely to be WW2 - late 1950's? Or am I "reading it" incorrectly?

David

[dobw]

I'm referring to the color of the border itself, not the base material or the thread that was used to sew the patch on the uniform. There are various shades of border that were used at various times. They range from a very light khaki to a darker, almost forest green (the color of the U.S. Army uniform from the late 50s until recently). I would say this patch exhibits the latter.

[davidwyke]

Originally Posted by dobw

I'm referring to the color of the border itself, not the base material or the thread that was used to sew the patch on the uniform. There are various shades of border that were used at various times. They range from a very light khaki to a darker, almost forest green (the color of the U.S. Army uniform from the late 50s until recently). I would say this patch exhibits the latter.

Hi Thanks for that, I take your point. I just thought that the 7th Inf Div patches had that colour border even during WW2 and that it continued when the "new" AG uniform went into service c. 1957; being replaced in the 1960's with the "merrowed edge" patches.

So, my line of thinking was that the tan edge thread might be indicative of it being sewn on to the WW2 - late 1950's pattern tan and OD uniforms, but obviously not!

David

[dobw]

I googled "shoulder patch borders" hoping to avoid digging examples out of my collection. Try this link to the U.S. Militaria Forum: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/foru...on-us-patches/

[davidwyke]

Yes, got it - the subtle difference between the OD & AG borders.

I'll go with late 1950's/early 1960's now!

David

[Bill A]

Dob, US insignia is not my forté, but if I read the link correctly, there were no merrowed edge division signs issued for the 7th?

[dobw]

Actually there are also merrowed edge varieties, in both bright and subdued...

[elgee45]

Picture taken from my telly last night. A programme about the Vietnam War. US Colonel wearing the same patch, 1965 or 66. Apologies for the poor quality of the images.

Lawrence

[dobw]

Wear on right shoulder indicates "former wartime service" in that unit, the so-called "combat patch"...

[Voltigeur]

Originally Posted by elgee45

Picture taken from my telly last night. A programme about the Vietnam War. US Colonel wearing the same patch, 1965 or 66. Apologies for the poor quality of the images.

Lawrence

If I'm not mistaken this photo shows retired United States Army lieutenant general Harold Gregory "Hal" Moore, Jr.

Moore is best known as the lieutenant colonel in command of the 1st Battalion, 7th Cavalry Regiment, at the Battle of Ia Drang, in 1965 during the Vietnam War.
In June 1952 Moore was assigned to the 17th Infantry Regiment of the 7th Infantry Division during the Korean War. As a captain, he commanded a heavy mortar company in combat.