Makers Marks - "J.R.GAUNT LONDON" - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

2747andy · #1 01-06-10, 11:58 AM

The dating of Makers Marks and the period of use is a bit like nailling Jelly to a wall, but here is evidence that the "Small" Gaunt London, without the full stop between "T"and "L" could have been in use as early as 1906-10? An Edward the 7th (c.1901-10) badge which would have been in use upto 1910 with this pattern of slider introduced in 1906! (I always thought it was a 1930s mark???). Your thoughts please?

I'm happy that the badge is genuine and in unused condition and not a copy!

Andy

tonyb · #2 01-06-10, 12:17 PM

Looks a nice badge ! am jealous.
Tony.

Alan O · #3 01-06-10, 12:35 PM

It is a 1940s style slider - could it have been refixed and not be the original one for that badge - the solder looks very grey to me?

2747andy · #4 01-06-10, 12:41 PM

Alan,
No! Slider is the original, there is some flux or residue, which I would put down to the badge not being cleaned "At All"..

I also thought the makers mark was later, the slider is however early and not 40's (slight taper, motted brass and rough edges - Deffo a period slder!).

Andy

KLR · #5 01-06-10, 12:57 PM

The same mark appears on sliders on King's badges dated from c1908 to 1926.

Keith Blakeman · #6 01-06-10, 03:36 PM

I've got a multi-voided 5th London with it.

2747andy · #7 01-06-10, 03:43 PM

Thanks all for your replies... I am firmly in the opinion that both the badge and the makers mark are of the correct period. Perhaps it would be fair to say that this mark was introduced (on sliders) between 1903 and 1910!! Three years is not a bad window for badge colecting?

Andy

Alan O · #8 01-06-10, 03:50 PM

Maths was not my best subject but 10-3=7

Keith Blakeman · #9 01-06-10, 04:06 PM

Here's the 5th London mentioned. I've seen a few of these some not marked It's the version which appears in KK Vol 1.

KLR · #10 01-06-10, 04:17 PM

Here's the King's "unofficial" Foreign Service one - possibly a FSH badge on account of the slider length. It dates to perhaps 1908-1926.

2747andy · #11 01-06-10, 04:31 PM

Just to back my thoughts on the 1st badge, here is a Gm Ed 7th long slidered badge c.1903-06 and a RE Vols Wm.. 1906-08 with a similar shape slider to my 1st badge posted at the start of this thread!

Andy

Sonofacqms · #12 01-06-10, 04:32 PM

Could these sliders have possibly been samples for the company, there was great changes around this time with the formation of the TF from Volunteers and the introduction of the "slider" as opposed to the loops for fixing badges.

It would be interesting to find out who first thought out the vertical shank and who first produced it, maybe it was JR Gaunt who firmly put their stamp on it.