Mystery Badges (well some are?) & Buttons

[billy]

Thanks CB101, wouldn't have got that, need to find the "C & G" now!.

Leigh forgot that I do remember it now, but that is long gone! You have a good memory! Cheers billy

[mike_vee]

Originally Posted by altcar73

You place far too much reliance on what you find on the internet!

You are correct but the only way myself and others will learn is by making mistakes ..... and asking questions.

I never knew there were so many 'variations' , are the three examples in the photos all police ?

[Hoot]

Originally Posted by mike_vee

You are correct but the only way myself and others will learn is by making mistakes ..... and asking questions.

I never knew there were so many 'variations' , are the three examples in the photos all police ?

The third badge is Oldham Tramways. The Oldham badge in the opening post was never used by Oldham Tramways.

[mike_vee]

Originally Posted by Hoot

The third badge is Oldham Tramways. The Oldham badge in the opening post was never used by Oldham Tramways.

Thanks , I'm easily confused between 'finishes' and have seen Tramways badge in brass and chromed.

Every day I learn something new.

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[altcar73]

Originally Posted by mike_vee

You are correct but the only way myself and others will learn is by making mistakes ..... and asking questions.

I never knew there were so many 'variations' , are the three examples in the photos all police ?

The first badge is a broken version of the second. The second and third were used by the police.

Dave.

[mike_vee]

Originally Posted by altcar73

The first badge is a broken version of the second.

Thanks , I could see the owl was missing but thought the wreath was lower , guess somone did a bit of hedge trimming !

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[altcar73]

Originally Posted by mike_vee

Thanks , I could see the owl was missing but thought the wreath was lower , guess somone did a bit of hedge trimming !

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These badges are made up of two parts. The centre is from a standard die featuring the Borough Arms. The wreath is from a separate die, the size and design of which can vary depending on the whim of the manufacturers. Differing batches made years apart can have a smaller/larger wreath. The manufacturing process simply consists of the centre shield being sweated to the wreath. No significance should be attached to these variations.

Dave

[mike_vee]

Thanks Dave , I appreciate you taking the time to give me an explanation.

I don't mean to be a pain in the ass by asking dumb/obvious questions , as a relative 'newbie' any information I can gleam from others is always helpful.

Cheers.

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[Alex Rice]

ARP button - Air Raid Precautions I think.

[btns]

Hi,
Here are your buttons:
row 1:
1. general service (1902-1952)
by C.H.C. & Co Ltd, Birmingham
2. stock design merchant navy
by J.R. Gaunt & Son Ltd, London Eng.
3. Air Raid Precautions, WWII
by Cheney, Birmingham
4. a fashion button
row 2: small size general service buttons
Two of these are by Regal Button Works Ltd, Birminham
and the third one by Firmin, London

Some of these button makers can be found here:
https://oldcopper.org/makers/birmingham_brassmakers.php

best regards,

[billy]

Hi Btn,s thanks for the description of these, put up in case this maker was on a member's want list, or hadn't yet found!

All the best everyone for taking the time to sort them out, cheers billy