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Old 21-11-23, 12:28 AM
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Default New album AASC and RACT

Just put together my second attempt at creating an album.
I tried hard to post the pictures in the correct order did not succeed. Is it possible to change the order with starting again from the beginning?
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Old 14-12-23, 07:15 AM
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Again a fantastic reference, scarce and rare items

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Old 17-12-23, 11:20 PM
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Here is another ASC title, marked Stokes and Sons under lug. Quite scarce
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Old 18-12-23, 12:08 AM
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Thanks, never seen it before. With your permission, I will add it to the Album?
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Old 18-12-23, 01:32 AM
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Thanks, never seen it before. With your permission, I will add it to the Album?
Yes no problem
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Old 18-12-23, 11:26 PM
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Here is another ASC title, marked Stokes and Sons under lug. Quite scarce
Saved somewhere I do have a copy of a photograph from the RAA History Company archives (Cutler Research Centre) that shows this badge being worn by many members of 1st Division AASC circa 1930.

There was also a direction issued by AHQ in the early 1930s that the unauthorised wearing of metal shoulder titles by the CMF was to cease as there were coloured puggarees, etc, on issue.

I will keep digging for that photograph, one of a number of family photographs of the AASC in Victoria and NSW that were donated by the officer's family.

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Old 20-12-23, 04:36 AM
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Saved somewhere I do have a copy of a photograph from the RAA History Company archives (Cutler Research Centre) that shows this badge being worn by many members of 1st Division AASC circa 1930.

There was also a direction issued by AHQ in the early 1930s that the unauthorised wearing of metal shoulder titles by the CMF was to cease as there were coloured puggarees, etc, on issue.

I will keep digging for that photograph, one of a number of family photographs of the AASC in Victoria and NSW that were donated by the officer's family.

Keith
That sounds really interesting Keith, I would very much like to see the photograph if you find it.
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Wow!!!

A great album, such a difficult & rare Corps to collect too. I shall have to look closely at my AASC items.
Thank you so much for showing us.
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Old 22-12-23, 08:53 PM
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My bad, it was a straight ASC title being worn in 1930.

Attached photo, plus photo of my titles when I had them that shows a pair of curved ASC titles, Stokes if I recall correctly.

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Old 22-12-23, 08:56 PM
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Photo not much good for reference is it, no scanner either so can't blow it up. Sergeant in front row and seated second row extreme left (our left).
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Photo not much good for reference is it, no scanner either so can't blow it up. Sergeant in front row and seated second row extreme left (our left).
A close up Keith
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hey Kingsley,
whats the significance of the backing? i know it represents the colour patch but anything else? havent seen it worn but i do have one of these, but colours reversed?
bought it in a deceased estate about a year ago
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Old 25-12-23, 07:38 AM
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I have always thought that a number of 1930-42 badges were probably worn with some kind of coloured backing but have seen very little actual proof.
I don't have the Album AASC badge with the backing, just put the picture in my files years ago, possibly from Ebay. My pictured backing looks better made than yours, which could have been made up by someone who was not sure which order to put the two colours.
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Old 25-12-23, 10:11 PM
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I have always thought that a number of 1930-42 badges were probably worn with some kind of coloured backing but have seen very little actual proof.
SO Dress 1935 permitted a coloured backing to be worn behind collar badges in particular, conforming to the shape of the badge. Circa 1937 this changed to a rectangular patch in the colour of the Corps facing, supplied by the CCF.

I can only go on Artillery because that's all I collect and research but can assure you that a coloured (red or scarlet) backing was worn to RAA cap badges by the Militia (not necessarily all units or personnel but SA that I've seen) and a patch was worn behind the collar badge by some units (WA and Tas that I know of).

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Old 30-12-23, 01:02 PM
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My pictured backing looks better made than yours, which could have been made up by someone who was not sure which order to put the two colours.
Hi Kingsley
Interesting observation. Out of interest which colour would take precedence over the other and why?
I have seen artillery badges hat and in particular collars with the red backing but that’s only a single colour.
So should the AASC be white on blue or blue on white?
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