21st Londons - badge/date anomaly

Am I mistaken, or does this say '1903'?

21st London Anomoly 3.jpg

As far as I am aware, the date on this First Surrey Rifles badge should be '1803'.

I am aware of other badges which bear incorrect dates, such as some of the St. Pancras rifles, so is this such an example or just a bit of wear and tear to the number eight?

Perhaps other members have similar examples?

With thanks,

Peter

[54Bty]

Just checked mine and it is 1903.

[Charlie585]

Hi Peter,

K&K state that "Specimens can be found with the incorrect date of 1903".

It looks like you'll have to shop around for another now to complete the set.

Are you going to treat us to a photo of the whole badge, or will it mean a visit to your albums?

Ry

Thanks blokes,

My source for this was Gaylor's description of the bagde:

'...the upper arm of the cross carries the South Africa honour, and the lower bore the date '1803', the date of formation of the Surrey Volunteers from which the unit claimed descent.'

I must make a point of cross referencing against other sources before posting in future!!!

I wonder how rare the incorrect version is.

Ry... ask and you shall receive:

21st a.jpg 21st b.jpg

Thanks again fellas,

PJ

[Charlie585]

Originally Posted by Peter J

I wonder how rare the incorrect version is.

Nice to see it PJ, thanks.

To answer a question with a question, is the incorrect date limited to just the one manufacturer?

If so, I would imagine that this increases the rarity.

Ry

Good point, Ry. I wonder if the badge Marc has, has a maker's mark?

PJ

[orasot]

Evening Chaps,
I think that's a lovely badge with the wrong date, here's an iffy one to compare it to, top of the cross not voided & although you can't really see it, the 9 in the date looks like a 2 year old did it with the wrong hand !!! The one in my album is 1803, neither are maker marked by the way. Well done on getting that one Peter, nice find.
Wilf.

Always nice to have a comparison; thanks for that, Wilf.

It seems that every badge that comes along can teach you a whole load of interesting stuff; one of the things I really enjoy about collecting.

Thanks for your comments too, by the way. I was very pleased to have come by this bagde.

All the best,

Peter.

[Artynut]

Hello peter, What do I have here? It's been on the wall in my basement for over 30 years. I thought it was a collar badge but just took it down to examine the date (it's 1803) and see it has the tang. Wouldn't a collar have lugs? By the rule, you will see it's 42mm X 30mm. I thought small for a cap badge.

Originally Posted by Artynut

Hello peter, What do I have here? It's been on the wall in my basement for over 30 years. I thought it was a collar badge but just took it down to examine the date (it's 1803) and see it has the tang. Wouldn't a collar have lugs? By the rule, you will see it's 42mm X 30mm. I thought small for a cap badge.

Hello mate,

Yes it IS a cap badge, and you're right about the size... it is small by comparison. Those dimensions are correct; mine are the same.

Yours looks as though it still has a fair bit of the blacking on it too. Nice badge.

Cheers,

Peter.