42nd

[rmarsden]

I remember seeing an article on Regimental sphinx's in an old Crown Imperial magazine but do not have a copy.
Have an early pewter badge to post in this thread next but just on my way out.
Ron.

[rmarsden]

Early 19th C pewter bonnet badge, flat cast with integeral lugs. Tooled leather rosette with pinked edges and a red cloth backing. AA monogram scratched on bottom left arm of cross. The sphinx does wear a chemise but not exactly modest. Another unusual feature is the sunburst from the sides of the circlet. You can see from the witness lines on the reverse that a sliding core was used to produce the holes in the lugs.

[Advsmt]

Very interesting badge Ron. I guess an O/Rs badge, but very exquisite leather tool work. Do think it was issued soon after Waterloo? Any references exist?
I will probably never be in a position to buy an original leather or cloth bonnet rosette so do you know if it is possible to buy reproductions?

Bryan

[rmarsden]

Hi Bryan, I dont know the date of the badge the sunburst style was popular in the 1830s-40s, you see it on clocks and firegrates of that period. You would need to find a belt or harness maker for leatherwork must be someone out there.
Ron.

[Advsmt]

I have one sunburst badge, albeit on a more modest scale. Inverness RV; I have to say one of my personal favourites outside of the "42".

Bryan

[rmarsden]

ORs open backed pewter button by Nutting Covent Garden.
Circa 1830s.

[Jeff Mc William]

Once again Ron, a fantastic display of early and exceedingly rare artifacts from one of Britain's finest Infantry Regiments. Many thanks for sharing. My best regards. Jeff

[rmarsden]

Thanks Jeff, forgot to mention the above button came from Stan Pagets personal collection.

[rmarsden]

42nd bandsmans last shako plate, 1874-8.
The 42nd were not issued with the shako 1869-78 wearing instead the feather bonnet. But on their flag waving tour of the Mediterrenean in 74,Malta, Cyprus and Gibraltar ORs wore the white helmet and the band wore shako's.
Standard design with stenciled cut out numerals, two loops to the reverse. Some manufacturers lustre remaining.

[rmarsden]

Same pattern as post no57 but non voided example.

[rmarsden]

42nd bansmans plaid brooch India 1857-67.
Cast white metal brooch 3/1/2" diameter with hollow center. A repeating pattern of thistles. Stout pin and hasp to the reverse, 42 numerals engraved at the top.

[Jeff Mc William]

Re Post #69 Ron ; Do you have a pic of the 42nd Helmet Plate you can show us ?
Regards. Jeff

[rmarsden]

Originally Posted by Jeff Mc William

Re Post #69 Ron ; Do you have a pic of the 42nd Helmet Plate you can show us ?
Regards. Jeff

Jeff, I have no photographic evidence of the shako being worn. I understand there was a photo in a supplement of the Sunday Graphic 1870s but have not found one.
DNW. sold an example earlier this year, they described it as a manufactures sample unappropiated by the regiment.
Ron.

[fougasse1940]

Originally Posted by rmarsden

42nd bansmans plaid brooch India 1857-67.
Cast white metal brooch 3/1/2" diameter with hollow center. A repeating pattern of thistles. Stout pin and hasp to the reverse, 42 numerals engraved at the top.

Would'nt a cairngorm have originally filled that now empty center?
Very impressive show of badges, by the way.

Rgds, Thomas.

[rmarsden]

Thomas,
The BW photographic archive has a picture of bandsmen of this era in India wearing the hollow centre.
It has never been the tradition in the 42nd or BW for officers to wear Cairngorms, however I accept some senior officers might posses one for certain dress occasions.
I have a photo of a young drummer in the Dundee HIghlanders wearing a cairngorm brooch 1860s period, although it would be coloured glass not a true stone. Will try and find it to post.
Ron.