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Ry, I think we're there - though I guess that metal (cap) badges designed to be worn on he FSH were superseded by what were probably the more practical "flashes" - there are official designations for flashes in the 2nd WW.
Graham, no apologies are necessary, I'm on a learning curve too, but starting with official records. I agree completely with certain ideas not working out. All I can say is that slidered HPCs were actually ordered (I've looked at WO tenders) and (as they physically exist) were produced. The same goes for the sockets. (afwan ! - I spent 6 months working in Saudi back in 1985, though other Nr E parts intermittently since), J Anyway, my brain is dulled by leaping back and forth between the 16th and 21st centuries. |
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Yes, that's what I was thinking of (I've been corresponding with Tim about it !). Theres one in the NAM and in that Crown Imperial article that I cited somewhere. Originally made for the slidereed HPC but - as it appears - that never took off so it appears to have been used for other badges !!
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When did this brass socket actually appear first (is that known)?
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thats odd.. my Busby has the normal screw nut fitting?
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I think all who have taken part in this debate can congraulate themselves on discussing the subject in an orderly, well mannered fashion, virtually bringing it to a successful conclusion.
It does make you wonder, considering the lack of these badges in evidence, what happend to them? Were they simply returned to stores, with the odd one making it's way into a footlocker/kit back? Probably they were eventually destroyed, but who know's as the Clothing Department, was notorious for hoarding stuff. Remember all of that stuff that came into circulation years ago when these MOD departments were being wound down? A very good friend of mine and brilliant military illustrator, Bob Marrion, once had the pleasure of visiting the Department that dealt with head dress and badges when they were still very active and was astonished to see them destroying Dragoon helmets with a guillotine(?). Well done to all. |
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Absolutely fascinating, most of it went straight over my head but very interesting never the less, the ability to take information in and my powers of retention are waning but I'm sure I didn't see any response to my question, or was it considered inconsequential ??
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For you Jock collecting fans with worries over your sliders, I present this wonderful and rare photo of a Gordon Highlander, actually wearing the glengarry badge with the FSH. The base of the badge nestling into the top intersection of the pagri. How was it fixed? - Well my gut feeling is that it was with the lugs, as a slider - due to the badges delicate construction, could very well cause the badge to snap at the antlers/head when inserted. By the end of the 1920's it would appear that nearly all of the Highland Regiments began adopting hackles or tartan with the FSH. |
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my feeling is that during the manufacture of my Camerons badge it started the production process destined to be lugged but left with a slider, I do not think it is a local i.e. "in unit" adaptation? As for the Scottish slidered badges, I'm sure we had a perfectly logical explanation a year or so ago, I think it may have been Alan O? I think the answer was that they were for use in the FSH, the slider being more practical than trying to pierce holes to accommodate lugs? Andy |
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