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Old 06-10-22, 01:05 PM
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Default 24th Grey's Horse symbolism

It was recently pointed out that the motif on the 24th Grey's Horse cap badge includes the Ukrainian golden trident.
Does anyone know the significance of the symbol on this Canadian pre-1914 badge?
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Old 06-10-22, 03:08 PM
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Thinking 'outside the box' , so probably wrong !

From Wiki :
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Most historians agree that the medieval symbol was not intended as depicting a trident, but rather, was a symbol of the Holy Trinity; it also was most likely a stylized falcon. Depictions of a flying falcon with a Christian cross above its head have been found in Old Ladoga, the first seat of the Kievan Rurik dynasty, of Scandinavian lineage. Such a falcon, along with a cross are also featured on the coins of Olaf Guthfrithsson, a Viking king of Dublin and Northumbria.
The symbol was found on coins etc , so possibly adopted by Christians in England (original Earl Grey was created Viscount Howick in the County of Northumberland, at the same time as he was given the earldom).

The 4th Earl Grey (Grey's Horse) was educated at Trinity College, Cambridge.

So , rather than a Ukrainian connection it may simply be a religious symbol ?


Or I could be completely on the wrong track !

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Old 06-10-22, 08:48 PM
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Mike, that crossed my mind. I am not sure there is any connection between the Ukrainian use and the Canadian militia.
Your research with the connection to Earl Grey is more logical.
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I have often wondered about this. Even when I was a kid in 1960s Saskatchewan, Ukrainian-Canadians faced a lot of smug prejudicial attitudes and 'jokes'. Their acceptance into military circles was probably extremely limited prior to the FWW (and of course, many were interned as 'Enemy Aliens').

The device on the 24th badge certainly bears strong resemblance to the trident; and that is a very unusual lion for a British Empire (Commonwealth) badge.
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