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Old 04-10-22, 07:52 PM
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Default ASC badge - odd design?

Can any ID this one? is it British? Officers' design but with a slider?
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Old 04-10-22, 07:57 PM
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found on the web:
South African Army Service Corps first pattern cap badge c1913
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Old 04-10-22, 09:43 PM
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It is the first pattern, 1913, unauthorised, of the South African Service Corps (SASC) worn from 1913 to 1916.
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Old 05-10-22, 03:36 AM
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I believe that is just hearsay on an unidentified badge.

The South African Service Corps did indeed have an early badge of an eight pointed star but the central device was the Union coat-of-arms with the full title 'South African Service Corps' above and 'Zuid Afrikaanse Intendans' below.
This was worn as a cap and collar badge and there is photographic evidence of this. It was worn in the Union, and GSWA.

With the Expeditionary force in GEA, the SASC wore the standard General service cap badge and unique SASC collar badges. An oval shape representing a steering wheel with gloved hands on either side and the letters S A above and S C below.

As a side note, there are very few South African Badges that came with a slider, so in my opinion, that is one indication that it is not an SA badge. Other thoughts is that why would anyone go to the lengths to create such a badge for a small corps that already has a designed badge. And finally all the original evidence recording South African badges going back to the 1940's have never shown this badge. It appeared on the net sometime in the 2000's.

It is either a completely fictitious item or is attributable to some other countries ASC (Like Sudan ASC or Singapore ASC, if such existed) . If someone does however have some real evidence that it is indeed South African, than that will be appreciated.
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Old 05-10-22, 06:21 AM
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Hi All
I understand Milmed's opinion here because there are no records. I have a couple of patterns of this and after corresponding with the authors of the book "Badges of the Empire's Waggoners", I was under the impression that this was an early SA badge. Happy to be corrected though.
I have the slidered version and also a 2-piece bladed example (unfortunately without the blades) and I believe them to be early period badges, wherever they may be from.
Both were found here in SA.
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Old 05-10-22, 06:48 AM
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Thank you. There is an SA connection with this one too so that seems most likely.

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Old 05-10-22, 07:19 AM
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The badge also has an extra 'S' in the entwined ASC.
So SASC.

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Old 05-10-22, 12:33 PM
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The badge also has an extra 'S' in the entwined ASC.
So SASC.

Chris
Yes Chris, that extra S in the script is where the potential confusion has come in with someone speculating that it is an early South African Service Corps badge. I say speculate as there is currently no evidence of this been a South African badge.
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Old 05-10-22, 02:34 PM
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From a book by HH CURSON 1954.
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Old 05-10-22, 03:01 PM
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Yes Chris, that extra S in the script is where the potential confusion has come in with someone speculating that it is an early South African Service Corps badge. I say speculate as there is currently no evidence of this been a South African badge.
They seem to be mostly found in SA which suggest to me that they are what the books say.
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Old 06-10-22, 04:20 AM
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They seem to be mostly found in SA which suggest to me that they are what the books say.
The image in Curson is the standard post 1922 SASC badge with the central device been the letters SASC over ZAI. This was later changed in 1926 to SASC over SAI. Curson's dates are incorrect for this badge. See picture

It is not like the badge that is in question on this thread. The thread badge is typically British (with tangs for OSD and slider for OR's) and with the ASC central device but with an extra S.
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