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Old 31-01-24, 01:32 PM
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Default Two puzzling badges!

Good afternoon everyone,

I have uploaded photos of a couple of unusual badges sorted from my collection. The first is cloth embroidered with a canvas type backing. It has the image of a dragon on the obverse.

The second has the Prince of Wales feathers with the usual motto Ich Dien. It is lugged with a voided Kings crown and appears to be a two piece construction.

If anyone can help identify either of these items it would be much appreciated as ever.

Many thanks
Bill Badger
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Old 31-01-24, 01:42 PM
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The crowned star with the feathers centre is almost certainly a generic cap badge probably used by brass bands (or similar) in Wales or places where the use of the feathers is appropriate.

Dave.
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Old 31-01-24, 01:55 PM
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The other badge the 16th Armoured Bde, Polish.
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Old 31-01-24, 01:56 PM
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That makes a lot of sense Dave. Up until now I had only seen the version with a lyre to the centre for a bandsman.

Many thanks
Bill
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Old 31-01-24, 02:01 PM
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Thanks Leigh.

Is this a variation of the Polish 16th Armoured Brigade badge I had seen previously with a black dragon on an orange background? That one was WW2 period. Do you think this is also WW2 or a modern one?

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Bill
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Old 31-01-24, 02:08 PM
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I think it was an earlier pattern, before the orange background one, zI can't give an opinion as to whether its a genuine WWII badge as I don't know enough about them.
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Old 31-01-24, 02:11 PM
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Thats very helpful Leigh. I don't suppose you have any link that refers to the earlier badge by any chance?

All the best
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Old 31-01-24, 02:27 PM
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Sorry, no, the orange version is the only one shown and referred to in "Badges on Battledess" (by Jon Mills ("Postwarden")).
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Old 31-01-24, 03:04 PM
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Thanks for taking the time to contribute Leigh.

Take care
Bill
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Old 31-01-24, 03:44 PM
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Bill,

The standard work on WW2 Polish badges - in Polish - shows three versions of the badge with khaki backing, one of which is similar to yours. Scan attached.

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Old 31-01-24, 03:58 PM
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Hi Jon,

Thanks for your excellent reference point complete with illustrations. I think that 100% confirms what Leigh said. I'm pleased to unearth an earlier pattern of such a striking badge.

Thanks again
Bill
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