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Old 10-03-08, 05:38 AM
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Default WW1 rising suns

hi all
thought i would put a few aussie rising suns up.
all are english made except for the enameled badge (admin & staff corps) as i believe the aussies didnt use blades or sliders.
1st badge, no makers name.
2nd badge, tiptaft named on slider and badge
3rd badge, tiptaft only on slider
4th badge, officers bronze with blades. no makers name
5th badge, enameled officers, stoke and sons melbourne
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Old 10-03-08, 01:01 PM
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Some great badges there. The staff badge is my favourite. Ive only managed to secure the gilt collars so far.

There is another slider variation you dont have. The sun, trophy of arms, whatever you want to call it is slightly smaller than all the examples you have shown. There are no maker marks to be found on those.

Sadly some tool has polished the smaller badge in my collection but Ive always assumed that these left the factory with a bronze finish.
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Old 21-03-08, 02:21 PM
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Australian officer's tank corp 001.jpgHi, hope this is the right thread for this. I got this badge from an Australian collection in the early eighties. There were no obvious fakes in it, but this one I always had doubts about. Anyone know if it is a fake or what? Sorry about quality of rear photos but couldn't get in focus. I have an ordinary one so realise this is a cast but not of that badge.
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Old 24-03-08, 06:52 AM
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That Tank Corps badge looks like a shonky!

The original should be made by Angus and Coote and have a nice crisp finish to the back.

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Old 24-03-08, 10:16 AM
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I think its one from speight of cast brass gold plated copies that are appearing on eBay. I bought one myself and the lugs are soft soldered, which is incorrect.

Just nit picking here, but the Australians didnt have any tanks during WW1. There were only Australians who joined the British Tank Corps. On the most part the badges above are from WW1.

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Hi, your'e right about new ones. Mine is slightly different, extra line left and bottom of turret, lower right front of turret is not defined and scroll has raised edge. Also forward cupola is in different position. I know these are small but it is a simple badge. I'm also not convinced it's right just curious.
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Old 24-03-08, 08:03 PM
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That Tank badge was worn by the Australian Tank Corps during the 1930s.

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Old 24-03-08, 10:04 PM
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That Tank badge was worn by the Australian Tank Corps during the 1930s.

Mick
Hi, I've not really looked at my Australian badges for some time, so I spent the afternoon looking at them closely. The gilt cast badge could almost be a master for the standard badge that I've got. I'm not sure if the black badges were issue badges blacked for war service or completely new manufacture. I say this as the gilt badge has much finer detail than my black one,for example the ring on the turret has an inner ring which doesn't show on the obverse of the black tank but is apparent on the reverse stamping, also the rivets are much more pronounced and there are the additional lines back and base of turret. Curious.
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The oxidised Australian regimental and corps badges were made around late 1939/1940 (after declaration of war) and were worn to about 1942 when most of the CMF regiments were disbanded.

Most of the badges of that period were crisply struck on the back and cast badges are generally a good indication of a fake.

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Hi Mick,

The Australian Tank Corps badge as pictured here was worn from 1930-1942. It an expensive badge, Ive got it valued at 450 Australian in 1997.
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Old 28-03-08, 08:57 PM
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Interesting - I only rate it a $350-400 badge in today's prices.

Who gave you that price? I S Wrights? I have seen them and another dealer try and sell it for a ridiculous $850 - mind you the last time I looked it was still in their display case unsold at that price.

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Old 29-03-08, 12:51 PM
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Here is my badge. I assume that it is genuine because it was part of a bequest from a long-standing collector. It has been turned into a brooch.
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