WWI Webley & Scott MkV

[johnG]

Hi Roy,
Would it be right to say the Wilkinson-Webley was a MkVl, manufactured by Wilkinson, but of a better quality which was then adopted by Webley-Scott as standard for their model.

Regards,
John

[Roy]

Hi John,

No not quite. As Wilkinson bowed out of making firearms themselves, they would have other reputable companied make them to their specifications. Wilkinson (from the late 1800's) had Webley manufacture a number of revovers to their specifications to be retailed out of their Pall Mall London store, selling mostly to officers. This resulted in a collaboration with a number of 'Wilkinson-Webley' revolvers (mine is a model 1905). In essence the Wilkinson-Webley was a commercial variation of the standard Webley service revolver that was made to a much higher standard than the service revolver.

When the MkVI was introduced (in 1916) it incorporated many of the featured that had proved beneficial on their earlier 'commercial' revolvers (such as the Wilkinson-Webley). A good example of this is the 'flared' grip which replaced the earlier birds-head grip.

I Hope that makes sense John?

All the best, Roy.

More on Wilkinson guns & accoutrements here:
http://www.wilkinsonfscollection.com...utrements.html

[johnG]

Thanks Roy, that clears up my muddled thinking on that one and I will now get off your back and let you get down to that firing range.

Looking forward to your report after firing that MkVl.

Best wishes,

John

[Roy]

Hi John,

I thought this might interest you. I just took a comparison photo showing both revolver.

The top handgun is my 1905 Wilkinson Webley .455".

Below is the 1916 Webley MkVI .455".

You can clearly see how the (commercial) Wilkinson-Webley has influenced the design of the 1916 Webely MkVI service revolver.

I think you will agree - a lovely pair..

All the best, Roy.

[johnG]

I think you will agree - a lovely pair..

I am positively green with envy.
Cheers,

John

[Roy]

Thanks John,

It's good to share.

A quick question (open to anyone) I now have a few Webley handguns, is it work me putting together a small album showing and sharing these? I ask as I am happy to share if it would be of interest especially as my fellow countrymen are no longer allowed to collect/shoot these wonderful pieces of 'our' history. BUT I don't want to offend the powers that be, after all this is a badge forum.

Any thoughts? and/or who would be the best person to run this by?

All the best, Roy.

[johnG]

Hi Roy,

Badges of course is the prime interest which brought us to this forum and keeps us here, but I think most members have much wider interests based in some way or other on a service theme, and are not confined to badges alone.

Many of the off-topic threads are of great interest and make excellent reading and not only that, with an occasional exception which is readily overlooked, this is a forum where good manners and courtesy prevail, so where better to discuss those off topic interests, knowing one is amongst people who are of the same mind set.

I very much welcome your suggestion.

Kind regards,

John

[Roy]

Thanks for that support John,

I have the go ahead from Mike, so will be looking forward to putting a small album together shortly.

Watch this space!

All the best, Roy.

[Roy]

For all those interested I just created an album to show my modest collection of Webley handguns.

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...p?albumid=2292

All the best, Roy.

[johnG]

A very nice collection Roy, and that .32 pistol 1908, was that model at one time adopted by the Metropolitan Police, or am I thinking of something else.

Regards,

John

[Roy]

Hi John,

Many thanks for that my friend.

Yes you are sort of correct John. The model 1908 was eventually adopted by the Met but with specific modifications. Such pistols are clearly marked and more correctly known as the 'M.P.' Pattern. I'm sure these are very rare as I have not seen one to date.

All the best, Roy.

[johnG]

Hi Roy,
I thought it rang a distant bell. In 1947 (when I was a young lad) at Sanders, gunsmiths of Maidstone, Kent. (No longer a gunsmiths there, but I believe a couple of replica crossed guns on the building to indicate where Sanders used to be). I had the opportunity to examine a number of old weapons, one of which I was told was the .32 Met Police model. Your picture brought back a memory.

Best wishes,

John

[jim a]

My favorite Webley... a .22LR Mk IV... 6 inch barrel... adjustable rear sight... a great shooter... have never seen another...

[jim a]

[Roy]

Hi Jim,

A nice revolver. Quite rare to see a dedicated .22lr as most I have seen are the standard service revolver with a .22 conversion. Not sure of the date on yours but from the design it looks to be postwar?

Thanks for sharing and well done.

All the best, Roy.