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Old 01-08-17, 03:01 PM
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Quite frankly, I think, after reading the thread about this particular badge, the discolouration is due to the rubbish that it has been made from.
Thanks Frank.
I believe you're right. This badge was likely stained to make it aged.
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Old 04-08-17, 07:47 AM
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Well, I don't get to many fairs these days and only seldom look on line, but, I have not seen one of these being offered as an original badge, it is very sad to think that some might have ended up in peoples collections, who bought them in good faith, believing them to be completely original.

Does anyone know how old these badges actually are, did they originate from Holland?
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Old 04-08-17, 07:59 AM
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Well, I don't get to many fairs these days and only seldom look on line, but, I have not seen one of these being offered as an original badge, it is very sad to think that some might have ended up in peoples collections, who bought them in good faith, believing them to be completely original.

Does anyone know how old these badges actually are, did they originate from Holland?
I don't know where they originated from, but I first saw them about two or three years ago.

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Old 04-08-17, 08:08 AM
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Hello Jack,
Okay, many thanks, that would certainly explain why I had never seen one, well, with this thread and the other recent one, lets hope no one, on here, at least, gets taken in by them.

At the price quoted in the other thread of some eighty five euro, I am amazed that anyone would buy such an odd looking badge for that kind of money, without first taking a closer look, after all, an original can be found for much less.

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Old 04-08-17, 11:45 PM
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Agreed. It looks like re-enactor shops sell a similar pattern for a much lower price.
http://www.sofmilitary.co.uk/ww2-par...-product,13910

I particularly like the comment 'with a few years wear this badge would look like an original'


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Old 05-08-17, 06:18 AM
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I particularly like the comment 'with a few years wear this badge would look like an original'


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Hi Pierre - yes ... that says everything bad about re-enactor items - they should be stamped 'copy' in my opinion.
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Old 05-08-17, 07:03 PM
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I disagree, it cannot look anything remotely like an original.


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I particularly like the comment 'with a few years wear this badge would look like an original'


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Hi Pierre - yes ... that says everything bad about re-enactor items - they should be stamped 'copy' in my opinion.
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Old 05-08-17, 09:19 PM
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The comment was directed at the 'intention' of the manufacturer of the tat - damn cheek to be boasting such a thing could pass as original - but an exercise in intended deceipt. Beginners can be fooled with a lot of these abominations - hence the mantra of Research, Research and more Research, and value of the forum.
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The comment was directed at the 'intention' of the manufacturer of the tat - damn cheek to be boasting such a thing could pass as original - but an exercise in intended deceipt. Beginners can be fooled with a lot of these abominations - hence the mantra of Research, Research and more Research, and value of the forum.
Mike
I nearly got fooled by one of those copies. Luckily someone outbid me.
That some luck. I need to study more the para badge.
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They have very poor definition in the crown and lion, the edges of the inner curved wings are smooth instead of raised. Also the lugs have been attached with a grey coloured solder instead of the more usual yellow brass brazing.
I chewed a little on that "bold" text but I'm a little confused so I would appreciate opinions on one of my favourite voided badges which has that mentioned grey coloured solder and poor definition in the crown and lion.

PARA-BADGE-15-VOIDED-1.jpg PARA-BADGE-15-VOIDED-2.jpg

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I chewed a little on that "bold" text but I'm a little confused so I would appreciate opinions on one of my favourite voided badges which has that mentioned grey coloured solder and poor definition in the crown and lion.

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I’m confused?

Jack8 was taking about a closed crown example. Yours clearly is a genuine voided crown example from a very different die.

You seem to be comparing features of apples and oranges…

I think you’ll find your badge has been plated, it will not in fact have ‘grey coloured solder’.
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Old 29-12-22, 06:51 PM
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You seem to be comparing features of apples and oranges…
You're absolutely right, Luke.

My apologies for the confusion, I should have read the thread more carefully.

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