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Old 06-11-10, 08:33 PM
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Hi Guys,

Can members post images front and rear of their examples of the Queen’s Own Dorset and West Somerset Yeomanry please.

There are a few possible variation types that I would like to check.

Thanks!!!

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Old 06-11-10, 09:23 PM
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Default Queen's Own Dorset and West Somrset Yeomanry

Chris,
Here is my QOD&WSY. Flat back and plain slider.
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Old 06-11-10, 09:47 PM
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Chris,
Here is my QOD&WSY. Flat back and plain slider.
Hi Mate,

Yes, that is the same as one of mine with reconciling die flaws.

I'm especially interested if the slider is maker marked - is it:

FIRMIN LONDON

or

FIRMIN. LONDON

(note full stop which may be quite light)

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Chris
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Old 06-11-10, 10:36 PM
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Pics of mine attached, also flat backed and not marked

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Old 06-11-10, 10:42 PM
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Pics of mine attached, also flat backed and not marked

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Thanks Paddy,

Yep - same as one of mine.

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FIRMIN LONDON if there is a . then it is very faint! Images not as good as yours Chris.

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Hi Chris,
Heres my one looks a bit like 54 Bty's one with the Firmin London with no dot. This badge appears to have had some service wear as the high points are slightly worn and the badge may be on it's original cloth backing?
Hope these pics are of some use.
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Old 07-11-10, 06:59 PM
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FIRMIN LONDON if there is a . then it is very faint! Images not as good as yours Chris.
Hi 54Bty,

Your mark is FIRMIN LONDON without the dot. With the fullstop the length of the mark between FIRMIN and LONDON is a lot wider.

Your badge has the Firmin marking which has been found on badges attached to sealed pattern cards throughout the 1960's.

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Hi Mate,

Yes, that is the same as one of mine with reconciling die flaws.

I'm especially interested if the slider is maker marked - is it:

FIRMIN LONDON

or

FIRMIN. LONDON

(note full stop which may be quite light)

Regards

Chris
Hi Chris

This is mine.

The slider is marked FIRMIN . LONDON. However the "." is very, very faint and only visible under a magnifying glass.

I hope this helps.

Best wishes

Gordon
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Looks like there may be two shades of the green backing?
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Hi Chris,
Heres my one looks a bit like 54 Bty's one with the Firmin London with no dot. This badge appears to have had some service wear as the high points are slightly worn and the badge may be on it's original cloth backing?
Hope these pics are of some use.
Best Regards
UKbrits
Hi Guys,

OK - I've worked this out now and can see what has happened.

I'll get back to this later.

Regards

Chris
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Hi Chris

This is mine.

The slider is marked FIRMIN . LONDON. However the "." is very, very faint and only visible under a magnifying glass.

I hope this helps.

Best wishes

Gordon
Hi Gordon,

Difficult to tell from you images but it looks like the early marking.

Can you reconcile with 54Bty and ukbrits examples?

Look at the distance between the two words FIRMIN and LONDON. If there is a dot it will be on the same level as the 'N' in FIRMIN and should be quite distinct. Character height for both marks is 1.25mm height and the mark of FIRMIN LONDON is 11.65 mm long and FIRMIN. LONDON 15.50mm long.

Don't try measuring unless you have some digital or dial calipers though or it will drive you nuts.

Someone needs to write a book on all this crap...

Regards

Chris
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Hi Gordon,

Difficult to tell from you images but it looks like the early marking.

Can you reconcile with 54Bty and ukbrits examples?

Look at the distance between the two words FIRMIN and LONDON. If there is a dot it will be on the same level as the 'N' in FIRMIN and should be quite distinct. Character height for both marks is 1.25mm height and the mark of FIRMIN LONDON is 11.65 mm long and FIRMIN. LONDON 15.50mm long.

Don't try measuring unless you have some digital or dial calipers though or it will drive you nuts.

Someone needs to write a book on all this crap...

Regards

Chris
Hi Chris

When I started this hobby back in c1942 never did I think for one moment it would ever come to this. My other interest was steam engines and, by comparison, rivet counting is so much simpler!!

My badge seems similar in all outward respects to those of 54Bty and ukbrits.

However, having taken a series of measuremnets with my 4816 Draper, Made in W Germany, calipers, the best I can come up with is a length of 11.80mm.
There is no way of measuring the character height of the letters short of taking it to my nearest engineering works.

The "." sits equidistant between the feet of the N and F, is very small and shallow but nevertheless is there.

I will endeavour to take a better picture or would be equally happy to post it to you for your own examination. Please PM me if that would help this dilemma as I feel sure now that the future of our hobby depends upon a successful outcome to this problem. ( Only joking!)

Best wishes

Gordon

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Old 08-11-10, 07:33 AM
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Hi Gordon,

Yours in the same as 54Bty and ukbrits.

Believe me it gets nerdier than this...

Many Thanks!!!

Chris
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