German Pionier's Cap, cWWII. - British & Commonwealth Military Badge Forum

leigh kitchen · #1 06-03-19, 01:30 PM

The black piping indicates Pionier (sapper) branch of the army.

fougasse1940 · #2 06-03-19, 09:27 PM

Do you also post your British and Commonwealth military badges on Nazi headdress forums???

Rgds, Thomas

leigh kitchen · #3 07-03-19, 12:14 AM

No, I don't belong to any nazi forums.
Having said that I suppose I do still belong to the Wehrmacht awards forum, although my paying membership lapsed years ago, and yes, I did post British and Commonwealth military and police insignia and Headress there. They have a British and Commonwealth section, some decent blokes but too many self important, argumentative forum fascists lurk there.
This section of this forum is entitled "Headress" and as far as I'm aware German headgear isn't barred.
I have posted headgear from other nationalities here without complaint from others, and was planning on posting more such as Belgian, Yugoslavian, Dutch and Iraqui.
Contact forum moderators and suggest they make this a British and Commonwealth Headress section?
I'm more than happy, as ever, to comply with rules of the forum. I have no rights of ownership and no wish to dictate how it should be run.
In the meantime I'll take my ball home and cease to post any headgear on the forum.
Over to you.

fairlie63 · #4 07-03-19, 07:12 AM

Thanks for sharing Leigh.

Keith

leigh kitchen · #5 07-03-19, 07:28 AM

Thanks, I should really post more detail about the items I post rather than just images but my knowledge of German headgear was limited in the first place and I need to dig out notes to be able to comment on dates of introduction, manufacturer etc.
I figure that posting what I come across in my collection heap be it British, German, Indonesian, whatever, helps keep a fairly quiet section of the forum ticking over.

54Bty · #6 07-03-19, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by leigh kitchen

section of the forum ticking over.

Keep winding the key, Leigh.

Marc

leigh kitchen · #7 09-03-19, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by leigh kitchen

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This section of this forum is entitled "Headress" and as far as I'm aware German headgear isn't barred.
I have posted headgear from other nationalities here without complaint from others, and was planning on posting more such as Belgian, Yugoslavian, Dutch and Iraqui.
Contact forum moderators and suggest they make this a British and Commonwealth Headress section?
I'm more than happy, as ever, to comply with rules of the forum. I have no rights of ownership and no wish to dictate how it should be run.
In the meantime I'll take my ball home and cease to post any headgear on the forum.
Over to you.

Well, in the absence of further communication by now to indicate that forum moderators have been approached with a request that this "Headgear" section of the forum be restricted to being an "Any Headgear Except German" section I'll resume posting on the subject of headgear of various nationalities.

fougasse1940 · #8 09-03-19, 08:28 PM

This really curbs my desire to further contribute to this forum, but hey, you've satisfied your nazi paraphernalia exibitionism, so all's good, I suppose.

leigh kitchen · #9 09-03-19, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by fougasse1940

This really curbs my desire to further contribute to this forum, but hey, you've satisfied your nazi paraphernalia exibitionism, so all's good, I suppose.

Having some items of German insignia and headgear in my somewhat eclectic collection of militaria (mainly British but also Polish, Serbian, Yugoslavian, plus) does not mean that I am a nazi fan boy.
I am not contravening forum rules and I resent the implied accusation in this and your previous post that I have political sympathies for the nazi regime.
I do not.
I have a non-obsessionall interest in the German armed forces of WWI and WWII.
I do not admire the 3rd Reich.
The Germans were the enemy who shot and wounded my father in France in 1944, who afforded his father the opportunity to earn a Military Medal in France in 1916 and fought against other members of my family in the world wars.
I am simply showing permitted items of militaria on a militaria forum.
The titles of the threads that I start state clearly what the thread is about.
Rather than cease contributing to the forum I would suggest that you don't read the threads that will include items you disapprove of.
Sorry as I am that you are caused upset by my posts, I feel you are being unreasonable and request that you cease your unjustified sniping at me.
Address any concerns that you may have about me and my militaria collection to forum moderators.
I am not here for the "politics" or for the arguments, I am here as a collector of militaria.

yorkstone · #10 09-03-19, 09:44 PM

Most of us have German some Italian items in our collection some of mine brought back by family members and other people I have met. And some I have bought.

I often do displays for the Royal British Legion RAFA etc and they encourage telling History

I even have some Japanese items my Great Uncle Joe served in the Far East and was wounded out GSW

I have a. Piece of German bomber Italian badges Africa corp items brought back by his brother Uncle Sid who served in North Africa Italy F&G their cousin Joe Motteram South Staffordshire Regiment was Killed in Normandy Battle for Caen these items came to me through my Dad.

They are historic items from a bygone age and I for one do not feel any animosity to this cap being shown.infact find it interesting
Regards

Stephen

engr9266 · #11 08-03-19, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by leigh kitchen

The black piping indicates Pionier (sapper) branch of the army.

Leigh, Is it a repro hat? I am sure the size says 7 1/2 and wouldn't it be in MM's?

Jerry (opps no pun intended)

Hawthorn · #12 08-03-19, 02:58 PM

Think its 57 1/2, continental sizing I believe.

Simon.

engr9266 · #13 08-03-19, 03:12 PM

You are properly right Simon, I could not make out the first bit. I still think it strange to have a half size in metric.

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Originally Posted by Hawthorn

Think its 57 1/2, continental sizing I believe.

Simon.

leigh kitchen · #14 08-03-19, 03:50 PM

I hadn't really paid any attention to that marking, yes, it's 57 1/2.
Seems trange for a genuine or a fake / repro.
Looking at the cap itself it see to have some age and be a little fragile.

A check of my notes about this cap has shown that they were casualties of my desk top and external harddrive joint suicide pact crash and burn of some years ago, all that's left re. this cap are a few images.
I may have some printed notes.......