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Old 07-01-15, 11:07 PM
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I hate to say this but attacks like this are going to become more common across europe in the future and how can we stop them the truth is we can't.
Oh I think we could stop them!!!


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Old 07-01-15, 11:10 PM
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..... I want to vent my spleen but here is not the place.
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I hate to say this but attacks like this are going to become more common across europe in the future and how can we stop them the truth is we can't.
Really? So how was the Baader-Meinhof gang stopped. There are many terrorist groups that no longer exist.
As one former high ranking officer said "the answer to terrorist violence is overwhelming, righteous violence against the terrorists."
The problem is the politicians, they need to allow the gloves to be taken off. In France the suspects look to be home grown and politicians of all persuasions in western countries have allowed a group of people (muslims) to migrate to their countries when the majority don't assimilate.
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I think you may want to revise "All" at the start of your post to "Some", as just like in the days of the troubles in NI, there are those who will be doing back flips and very pleased over this!

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No I mean they will all be vilified not just the very small minority who commit these atrocities. I'm not apologising for those who do commit acts like this simply saying that we can't blame all Muslims for the actions of a few in the same way we couldn't, but a lot of people did, blame all Catholics for supporting the IRA.
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Old 08-01-15, 07:55 AM
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If in any doubt one should read 'Reliance of the Traveller: The Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law Umdat Al-Salik' by Ahmad Ibn Lulu Ibn Al-Naqib and Noah Ha Mim Keller.
This is not the radicals version of sharia and islamic law, this is the main version.
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Really? So how was the Baader-Meinhof gang stopped. There are many terrorist groups that no longer exist.
As one former high ranking officer said "the answer to terrorist violence is overwhelming, righteous violence against the terrorists."
The problem is the politicians, they need to allow the gloves to be taken off. In France the suspects look to be home grown and politicians of all persuasions in western countries have allowed a group of people (muslims) to migrate to their countries when the majority don't assimilate.

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Old 08-01-15, 10:09 AM
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Quite right, yet again, the enemy within, the gloves now need to come off.

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Really? So how was the Baader-Meinhof gang stopped. There are many terrorist groups that no longer exist.
As one former high ranking officer said "the answer to terrorist violence is overwhelming, righteous violence against the terrorists."
The problem is the politicians, they need to allow the gloves to be taken off. In France the suspects look to be home grown and politicians of all persuasions in western countries have allowed a group of people (muslims) to migrate to their countries when the majority don't assimilate.
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Another sad day, to many in recent times. We need to start to fight fire with fire. At present we seem to expecting terriost to change. We need to do the changing.
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cant say what i really want to on a public forum but once every country had their own imegration standards but these have been run down by wishy washy
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Old 08-01-15, 10:54 AM
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I am pleased to see that at least the BBC are brave enough to show a representative selection of Charlie Hebdo cartoons today.
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Old 08-01-15, 11:38 AM
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Like most of us my first instinct is one of being scared that this can happen and we cannot prevent it. My next thought was, I'm ashamed to say, hatred and the lust for revenge. This was immediately followed by the realisation that killing such people will not solve the problem: it only breeds martyrs and more revenge attacks against us.
Charlie Hebdo had it right, and paid a heavy price for it- The pen is mightier than the sword.

If only we could draw pictures and not guns things might look up for all of us. As I cannot sketch I've borrowed one from twitter.

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A horrible event.
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The words 'Terrorist' & 'Terrorism' somehow do not seem enough to describe these horrific events...even using the term 'sub-human' does not seem enough to describe those people who would shoot an injured man in cold blood who was pleading for his life and execute others for daring to express an opinion. I feel despair and bewilderment and I feel the climate is changing and a backlash is starting. It is so dreadful.
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The words 'Terrorist' & 'Terrorism' somehow do not seem enough to describe these horrific events...even using the term 'sub-human' does not seem enough to describe those people who would shoot an injured man in cold blood who was pleading for his life and execute others for daring to express an opinion. I feel despair and bewilderment and I feel the climate is changing and a backlash is starting. It is so dreadful.
In all honesty mate, I don't feel anything has changed. My first experience of this was watching an 18 year old man floating in the river in my home town in 1971. Since then I lived through the destruction of our town and others nearby on numerous occasions. I watched and attended the funerals of friends and comrades who were killed. All in an ordinary UK town.

We must never forget the debt we owe to our own forces and agencies who have largely managed to drive the awful scourge of sudden terrorist death from our shores. There are those amongst us, including me, who share that plaudit which is why I use my particular avatar instead of the badge of the heroic and famous regular regiment I belonged to.

There has obviously been an intelligence failure in France. It will be investigated and holes plugged. They don't have the benefit of being an island nation like ours though. I know investigations won't help the families of those who died in Paris but it will hopefully prevent more deaths in the future, as French and international intelligence has done in the past.
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