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Old 08-05-11, 06:35 PM
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Default KC General Service Buttons

I've started an album of different manufacturers for this fairly common button, but obviously there are going to be a lot more, so what am I missing? Rob.

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...hp?albumid=978
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Old 08-05-11, 08:02 PM
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Hi Rob,
Here is a list of what I can find among my General Service KC buttons.
Cheers, Tinto

Crossed Swords Make MADE IN ENGLAND
BURY COURT MFG.
SYDNEY GRIFFITH BIRMINGHAM
NEWEY BROS. LIMITED BIRMINGHAM
W. DEARN & CO. BIRMINGHAM
C.H.C. & S. LTD. BIRMINGHAM
C. H. PARSONS LTD. BIRMINGHAM
STRATTON B’HAM
SMITH & WRIGHT LIMITED BIRMINGHAM
ESSOR B’HAM
ADAMS B’HAM
THE DEVERLEA PRODUCTS LTD. B’HAM
BUTTONS LIMITED BIRMINGHAM
CHENEY B’HAM
HEATON & TAYLOR LTD. BIRMINGHAM
RECAL BUTTON WORKS LTD. B’HAM
W. TWIGG & CO. BIRMINGHAM
KENWORTHYS LTD. BIRMINGHAM
LION BIRMINGHAM
HARCOURTS? LTD. BIRMINGHAM
MORTON & CROWDER LTD. BIRMINGHAM
E. ARMFIELD LTD. BIRMINGHAM
WM. DOWLER & SONS LTD. BIRMM.
? BIRMINGHAM
FIRMIN & SONS LTD. LONDON
WRIGHT & SON EDGEWARE MIDDX.
J R GAUNT & SON LTD. LONDON
GAUNT LONDON
G. J. WEBB & CO. LTD. LONDON
CHATURBIHARI & BROS. ALIGARHUP
J. C. PARIKH & CO. DELHI
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Old 08-05-11, 09:01 PM
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Default brass KC general service buttons

Here is my list (72, UK & India)
A. & W. Ltd, B'ham
A.A. & Sons, Aligarh
Adams, B'ham
H. Allday, Birmingham
Armfield Ltd, Birmingham
E. Armfield & Co Ltd, Birmingham
Beddoes, B'ham
Chatur Bihari & Bros, Aligarh
Chatur Bihari & Bros, Aligarh U.P.
Bliss Bro's, Birmingham
Buttons Limited, Birmingham
Buttons Ltd, B'ham
Buttons Ltd, B'ham, <crossed swords>
C.H.C. & S. Ltd, B'ham
C.H.C. & S. Ltd, Birmingham
Cheney, B'ham
Cooke Bros Ltd, B'ham
Cooke Bros Ltd, Birmingham
Derverlea Products, B'ham
The Derverlea Products Ltd, B'ham
W. Dowler & Sons, Birmm
Wm. Dowler & Son Ltd, Birmm
Essor, B'ham
Firmin & Sons Ld, Birmingham
Firmin & Sons Ltd, London
Firmin Ld, London
Firmin, London
Gaunt, London
J.R. Gaunt & Son Ltd, London
J.R. Gaunt & Son Ltd, London Engd.
J.R. Gaunt & Son, London
G.E. Ltd, B'ham
Ed. Gill, Birmingham
Sydney Griffith, Birmingham
Haseler & Restall Ltd, Birmingham
W.H. Haseler Ltd, Birmingham
Hobson & Sons, Lexington St, London
Geo. W. Hughes, St. Pauls, Birmingham
Imperial M.W., Aligarh
Industries Mills, Aligarh
J.B.S. & S., B'ham
J.H. Johnson & Co, Aligarh U.P.
JP
Kenworthy's Ltd, Birmingham
J. Landau & Sons
Lion, B'ham
Morton & Crowder Ltd
Morton & Crowder Ltd, Birmingham
Newey Bros. Limited, Birmingham
Newey Brothers Ltd, Birmingham
Niwey Bros Limited, Birmingham
Player Bros, B.
G. Preston Ld, Birmingham
Made in England
Special Quality
Regal Button Works Ld, B'ham
S. & D. Ltd, B'ham
N.K. Sharma & Co, Aligarh
A. Shirley, B'ham
Smith & Wright Limited, Birmingham
Smith & Wright Ltd, B'ham
Stratton, B'ham
W. Twigg & Co Ltd, Birmingham
Waterbury Button Co
Watts & Horton, B'ham
W.C.C.B.
C. & J. Webb & Co, London
W. White, B'ham
Williams & Gray, B'ham
Wilmot-Breeden Ltd, Birmingham
W.L.M. Ltd, B'ham
Woolley & Co (Birmingham) Limd
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Blimey! I have got a long way to go,

Thanks very much for the list's Rob
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Old 12-07-11, 05:56 PM
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I've found a couple of General Service button oddities.

The first is a 13mm KC cap button without the lion on the crown

The second, a 17mm button has a very flat crown, could this be late Victorian?
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Old 09-02-12, 02:45 PM
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Default Cast locally made button

The left hand button shown in the pictures below is quite heavy and appears to be a locally made cast copy of a "W.H.HASELER BIRMINGHAM" 24mm button.

It shows a certain amount of shrinkage as you would expect, but I'm not sure of the purpose of the 4 indentations on the back?

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I've found a couple of General Service button oddities.

The first is a 13mm KC cap button without the lion on the crown

The second, a 17mm button has a very flat crown, could this be late Victorian?
Why that difference? One with the lion and the other without...is just a design question...or there is a reason for that? Thank you!
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Here is my list (72, UK & India)
A. & W. Ltd, B'ham
A.A. & Sons, Aligarh
Adams, B'ham
H. Allday, Birmingham
Armfield Ltd, Birmingham
E. Armfield & Co Ltd, Birmingham
Beddoes, B'ham
Chatur Bihari & Bros, Aligarh
Chatur Bihari & Bros, Aligarh U.P.
Bliss Bro's, Birmingham
Buttons Limited, Birmingham
Buttons Ltd, B'ham
Buttons Ltd, B'ham, <crossed swords>
C.H.C. & S. Ltd, B'ham
C.H.C. & S. Ltd, Birmingham
Cheney, B'ham
Cooke Bros Ltd, B'ham
Cooke Bros Ltd, Birmingham
Derverlea Products, B'ham
The Derverlea Products Ltd, B'ham
W. Dowler & Sons, Birmm
Wm. Dowler & Son Ltd, Birmm
Essor, B'ham
Firmin & Sons Ld, Birmingham
Firmin & Sons Ltd, London
Firmin Ld, London
Firmin, London
Gaunt, London
J.R. Gaunt & Son Ltd, London
J.R. Gaunt & Son Ltd, London Engd.
J.R. Gaunt & Son, London
G.E. Ltd, B'ham
Ed. Gill, Birmingham
Sydney Griffith, Birmingham
Haseler & Restall Ltd, Birmingham
W.H. Haseler Ltd, Birmingham
Hobson & Sons, Lexington St, London
Geo. W. Hughes, St. Pauls, Birmingham
Imperial M.W., Aligarh
Industries Mills, Aligarh
J.B.S. & S., B'ham
J.H. Johnson & Co, Aligarh U.P.
JP
Kenworthy's Ltd, Birmingham
J. Landau & Sons
Lion, B'ham
Morton & Crowder Ltd
Morton & Crowder Ltd, Birmingham
Newey Bros. Limited, Birmingham
Newey Brothers Ltd, Birmingham
Niwey Bros Limited, Birmingham
Player Bros, B.
G. Preston Ld, Birmingham
Made in England
Special Quality
Regal Button Works Ld, B'ham
S. & D. Ltd, B'ham
N.K. Sharma & Co, Aligarh
A. Shirley, B'ham
Smith & Wright Limited, Birmingham
Smith & Wright Ltd, B'ham
Stratton, B'ham
W. Twigg & Co Ltd, Birmingham
Waterbury Button Co
Watts & Horton, B'ham
W.C.C.B.
C. & J. Webb & Co, London
W. White, B'ham
Williams & Gray, B'ham
Wilmot-Breeden Ltd, Birmingham
W.L.M. Ltd, B'ham
Woolley & Co (Birmingham) Limd
You can add the following
Gahdiner & co Glasgow
Sherlock & co London
Sir Peter Tait London
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Hi Rob,
Here is a list of what I can find among my General Service KC buttons.
Cheers, Tinto

Crossed Swords Make MADE IN ENGLAND
BURY COURT MFG.
SYDNEY GRIFFITH BIRMINGHAM
NEWEY BROS. LIMITED BIRMINGHAM
W. DEARN & CO. BIRMINGHAM
C.H.C. & S. LTD. BIRMINGHAM
C. H. PARSONS LTD. BIRMINGHAM
STRATTON B’HAM
SMITH & WRIGHT LIMITED BIRMINGHAM
ESSOR B’HAM
ADAMS B’HAM
THE DEVERLEA PRODUCTS LTD. B’HAM
BUTTONS LIMITED BIRMINGHAM
CHENEY B’HAM
HEATON & TAYLOR LTD. BIRMINGHAM
RECAL BUTTON WORKS LTD. B’HAM
W. TWIGG & CO. BIRMINGHAM
KENWORTHYS LTD. BIRMINGHAM
LION BIRMINGHAM
HARCOURTS? LTD. BIRMINGHAM
MORTON & CROWDER LTD. BIRMINGHAM
E. ARMFIELD LTD. BIRMINGHAM
WM. DOWLER & SONS LTD. BIRMM.
? BIRMINGHAM
FIRMIN & SONS LTD. LONDON
WRIGHT & SON EDGEWARE MIDDX.
J R GAUNT & SON LTD. LONDON
GAUNT LONDON
G. J. WEBB & CO. LTD. LONDON
CHATURBIHARI & BROS. ALIGARHUP
J. C. PARIKH & CO. DELHI
The "W. DEARN & CO. BIRMINGHAM" shown above I suspect is actually DEAKIN, can anyone confirm please?

Rob
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Hello Rob

Deakin & Co it is.

Confirmation on this site - illustration of a dug-up general service button made by Deakin - http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/fo...n-w-deakin-co/

Regards
Roger
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Old 04-05-17, 02:15 PM
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4 New Large KC GS with a very faint MM, they could be W.B.P LTD BIRMINGHAM like this small one?

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Hello Rob

I think you could well be right "W B & P Ltd Birmingham". I have noted this backmark on buttons before, as well as "B & P Ltd Birmingham" which I think is an earlier mark for the same company.

I have a note that "W B & P Ltd Birmingham" were taken over by Gaunt in 1916. If this is correct (can anyone confirm?) then it would nicely date your buttons.

Roger
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I've started an album of different manufacturers for this fairly common button, but obviously there are going to be a lot more, so what am I missing? Rob.

http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/for...hp?albumid=978
Hi Rob, thought you would like to see this.


Other types are 2nd photo
1st clear plastic
2nd leather
3rd black horn
4th green plastic

first photo
1st flat brass
2nd black horn
3rd brown plastic
4th Black painted green plastic
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