New to Uniform and Military buttons

[Liadain2]

Hi everyone
I have been collecting buttons for years but recently began collecting some military and uniform buttons.

I am stumped by this one button that I know from the help of a FB forum is a Diplomat Button and I believe it to be Royal Army Services Corps. Cannot find the date or value anywhere and I am not sure what I will do with this little gem.

I have attached pictures of the front and the back

I would really appreciate any information

Thanks in advance

[Bill A]

Hello Liadain, welcome to the Forum. Your account is active and open for posts.

[manchesters]

Hello,

The RASC wasnt created until 1918 and this button looks 100 years earlier to me.

Possibly not a military button but cant help ID it.

regards

[Liadain2]

The motto around the border is the same as the Corps but you are correct it is quite old. Could the mark be that of Samuel Firmin? That would put it 1790 - 1801ish

[manchesters]

Originally Posted by Liadain2

The motto around the border is the same as the Corps but you are correct it is quite old. Could the mark be that of Samuel Firmin? That would put it 1790 - 1801ish

"Honi soit qui mal y pense" is the motto of the British chivalric Order of the Garter and appers on multiple arms within the UK including the Royal Arms and can be found on many organisations arms with a Royal connection. It is not indicative of a specific Corps or Regiment of the British Army.

regards

[btns]

consular service and made by Samuel Firmin.

[grenadierguardsman]

Not very good quality either imho.
Andy

[Liadain2]

Thank you

[btns]

Originally Posted by grenadierguardsman

Not very good quality either imho.
Andy

I guess you did not appreciate its entirely manual engraving ...

From oldcopper.org:
Samuel Firmin (S.F.); near Somerset House. 1770’s to early 1790’s.
Samuel Firmin, Strand. London. 1793-1796...