23rd Battalion London Regiment

[Keith Blakeman]

Originally Posted by High Wood

If you don't mind me saying so, your badge does have rather wide spacing between the letters of South Africa but looking at Wilf's examples that appears to be the norm.

Yes, his 1900-02 is from the same die as mine by the looks of it, but with slider.

[dubaiguy]

Here is a 1900-2 badge which I believe to be a correct example. Even spacing between the letters and a complex number of sweat holes. Being four oblong holes behind the South Africa circlet, one which is obscured by the slider, a small round one on each ray of the star and a large round one in the centre. Nicely shaped slider with a slight crimp at the top.

Hope it helps in your investigation.
Mark

[Frank Kelley]

Very nice and completely different in terms of manufacture and material than the example in the original post.

Originally Posted by dubaiguy

Here is a 1900-2 badge which I believe to be a correct example. Even spacing between the letters and a complex number of sweat holes. Being four oblong holes behind the South Africa circlet, one which is obscured by the slider, a small round one on each ray of the star and a large round one in the centre. Nicely shaped slider with a slight crimp at the top.

Hope it helps in your investigation.
Mark

[High Wood]

Originally Posted by dubaiguy

Here is a 1900-2 badge which I believe to be a correct example. Even spacing between the letters and a complex number of sweat holes. Being four oblong holes behind the South Africa circlet, one which is obscured by the slider, a small round one on each ray of the star and a large round one in the centre. Nicely shaped slider with a slight crimp at the top.

Hope it helps in your investigation.
Mark

Agreed, an excellent example.

[High Wood]

Originally Posted by Frank Kelley

Very nice and completely different in terms of manufacture and material than the example in the original post.

The badge in the original post is being returned to the seller this morning for a full refund.

[Frank Kelley]

Very sensible thing to do!

Originally Posted by High Wood

The badge in the original post is being returned to the seller this morning for a full refund.

[Frank Kelley]

I think it is a great shame if these spurious badges have found their way into collections.

Originally Posted by High Wood

Several forum members appear to have identical badges in their albums. I am wondering if the genuine 23rd Battalion London Regiment badges have the honour South Africa 1900-02 rather than the South Africa 1900-2. Food for thought.

[Alan O]

Both -02 and -2 are genuine variations.

EJ Martin's badge article from 70 years ago shows the 1900-2 badge.

[High Wood]

Thank you.

[High Wood]

The b----r has only gone and relisted it with the same description.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WW1-Milit....c100033.m2042


It sold for £10.50

[CAM]

Originally Posted by High Wood

In this example from Cam's album the L of London is directly in line with the lower point of the star, the Rd of the 23rd is underlined as is the N of battalion and the space between the star points at 5 O'Clock & 7 O'Clock and the title scroll are unvoided.

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/fo...ctureid=160935

I have been informed that this one of mine might not be good due to the "anaemic" lettering in scroll and the underscore is too long in Bn.

I also have a similar one to yours - however the lettering is good.

Chris

[CAM]

Originally Posted by CAM

I have been informed that this one of mine might not be good due to the "anaemic" lettering in scroll and the underscore is too long in Bn.

I also have a similar one to yours - however the lettering is good.

Chris

Also the underscore on the T in Regt on mine.

[High Wood]

Cam,

when I received the badge, I checked it over and something didn't seem right so I looked at as many threads and examples in albums as I could. I found several different types and the one in your album, which appears to have the same flatness as mine, seemed to be the closest to my example.

The photograph in your album is quite small and cannot be brought closer to view the finer details. So if I have done your badge a disservice, I apologise.

Simon.

[CAM]

Originally Posted by High Wood

Cam,

when I received the badge, I checked it over and something didn't seem right so I looked at as many threads and examples in albums as I could. I found several different types and the one in your album, which appears to have the same flatness as mine, seemed to be the closest to my example.

The photograph in your album is quite small and cannot be brought closer to view the finer details. So if I have done your badge a disservice, I apologise.

Simon.

Simon,

No offence taken - I would rather know what people think as to what is good and what is bad so everyone knows what to look out for.

Chris

[Chipper]

Hi All,

I missed this thread as I was away, so just catching up. Thought I'd start by posting some pics of mine, which I agree, is very much like yours, HighWood, however, without the die flaws. The significance of that? Not sure... I will also say mine came from a reputable and respected source, which I am not saying makes it rock solid, but does mean, for me, I'd need compelling evidence before I'd declare it bad.

Thoughts and observations most welcome, good and bad.

Cheers, Tim